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Idol in Ohio a new poll showing that President Obama has a ten point lead right now in the Buckeye State.
But -- having better luck on -- eight national -- let that Scott Rasmussen founder president Rasmussen.
Reports are -- let me ask you this what do you think's got that the tide really turned here.
For Mitt Romney because of polling your polling two months ago showed us the Mitt Romney was actually doing well on the issue of the economy what -- Well there's a couple things going on first of all the race hasn't changed as much as the current -- suggest it has -- a little bit against Mitt Romney.
Were still showing -- tied nationally 46%.
Romney is down by a point in Ohio that's not great news forum but it's not a sea change in the rate what's happened.
People -- are feeling better about the economy consumer confidence is up and people have not been convinced that Mitt Romney would be any better than Barack Obama.
-- -- -- -- Scott 60% of Americans right now believe that we're in a recession still let me may be or not technically and one.
But Americans still feel that way explain to me the numbers behind us.
While 60% say we're still -- recession that's not a great number it was over 70% a couple of years ago so the trend is moving a little bit better.
The number of people who say the economy will be stronger -- it's 36%.
That's up a little bit from earlier in the year so we're seeing.
Maybe not good economic news or good economic perceptions of before starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel and again it comes back 288 comparison.
People don't think they're better off they were four years ago they don't think they're worse off.
Only a third think things will get better if Barack Obama is reelected.
Think the economy will be stronger -- Mitt Romney in office so he hasn't convinced people that he has something better off.
-- -- -- about a couple of things here does not -- your polling at Robinson looking at here will look for politics also basically is saying that the president had a three point 7% lead.
Over Mitt Romney at the same time the Romney -- -- -- coming out saying that these polls are just flat out wrong that they are skewed because.
That the data and -- being looked at is the 2008.
Breakdown of likely voters not.
How do you respond about yourself -- a pollster.
Well first off.
Just like the Green Bay Packers in Seattle Seahawks look at that last -- differently campaign to complain about every -- it doesn't go their way something that's just part of the process.
And now we know.
-- but also is -- late September polls are volatile the numbers.
Between late September in the actual campaign results of shifted by about three points in each of the last couple of elections and they tend to go against.
The incumbent administration.
-- yes there are questions about turnout.
We expect to see a higher turnout among seniors -- slightly higher turnout among white voters perhaps a slight decline among Latinos.
But most importantly.
We expect that there'll be fewer Democrats.
Relative to Republicans.
When there were in 2008.
-- tell -- stem this demographic issue because back in 2008 the turnout was actually higher for.
African Americans obviously those were mostly -- -- for President Obama at the same time normally that turnout number is about 11%.
Is it your sense from the numbers they're saying and tracking that we're gonna see more about realistic eleven percentile.
The African American voters turning out this election.
I believe the -- African American turnout itself will be just about the same as it was in 2008 however I believe that white turnout.
We'll be a little bit higher there were a lot of seniors were very discouraging the choices last time around and didn't go -- vote.
So I believe we'll see white turn -- -- little -- maybe the African American number down 12% -- Perhaps back to 11% but not a substantial change I think the bigger shift might come in Latino voters they may be down a pointer to.
We're gonna see a presidential debate the first debate where we -- -- I'm curious again because your sampling so many different folks on so many different issues.
What do you think Mitt Romney needs to come out with -- as a topic as a headline.
And that debate to get the polls back in his face.
-- He needs to come out with something that shows he gets it.
I'll Ronald Reagan was great at that Newt Gingrich was great at turning the tables on questions of this primary season.
Mitt Romney would like to have some of that that's not really his strong suit.
The second best thing for Mitt Romney would be a major gaffe by President Obama so perhaps Mitt Romney could go the president a little bit.
In -- some comments about small business owners or something else.
Because the race is close enough that any change could have an impact which Cheryl.
Debates have not move the numbers all that much for years ago when Barack Obama debated John McCain.
McCain was down by five points when it went into his debate.
And we came out of the debate it was down by six points virtually no change.
I think events on the ground perceptions of the economy economic news perhaps things from the Middle East.
Still could have a bigger impact than these debates.
All right Scott Rasmussen -- -- Rasmussen Reports it's fascinating to see what your numbers are showing us and they have certainly been changing over the last several weeks Scott thank you.
Thank you --