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Former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson on his fight to partake in the 2012 presidential debates.
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Way there is a third choices election year a libertarian on and don't tell former -- there -- New Mexico.
Governor Gary dot Citi doesn't have a chance chances are.
He will end up being on all fifty state ballots including try to stick one's in Arizona New Hampshire Colorado is -- state of New Mexico.
The governor with me now the governor.
-- the battle is is getting on those ballots and and pulling all.
To get in those debates.
So it's sort of like -- Tucker wrote.
Very catch -- -- I mean.
Right now I'm 05% nationally.
Fact is I'm not being recognized though -- 5% nationally and it.
People recognize that I was at 5% nationally -- look overwhelming reaction what does he -- -- hell is Gary general what does it take to get into the debates -- you gotta get in the polls first to determine who's in the debates Bob talked earlier about day you know the issues facing this country I just find it incredible.
-- Romney and Obama are in a debate over who's gonna spend more money on Medicare when Medicare has to be slashed when it comes to spending.
That we all understand that we've got to engage in this process of mutual sacrifice because what we're doing is absolutely not sustainable I just find it incredible.
Mitt Romney says we need to balance the budget but that we should increase spending for the military and we should hold Medicare -- -- doesn't add up do you.
Think that's going on with the frustration.
With the two parties because people forget that the president's low approval rate is not withstand it perked up a little bit.
Mitt Romney's low approval ratings they're kind of been saying the same.
But congress -- awful approval -- so it's almost resist the electorate is saying a pox on both parties thousands but they don't run to a third party.
Well in this case third party myself on being excluded them being excluded in ways that no one -- that get invited to the debates would you need to poll at 10% 1515%.
But if you're not a -- well -- it it if I were recognized today for 5%.
People would be flocking to the Internet to check out who I am not knowing who I am and I'm making the case that I actually do have a -- made a suggests the nominal doggedly pursue everything I'm talking about.
The rap against you governor you -- -- about it is your best to spoiler you'll hurt.
Mitt Romney probably NASA more than you will Barack Obama -- you could cause Barack Obama.
Colorado and somehow more -- No I -- that well I'm more liberal and Obama on and certain issues sound more conservative around him in a more liberal and Obama when it comes to certain social issues some -- conservative around me when it comes to dollars and cents for different.
Little external review your view -- either fell on deaf ears -- lost some of its fire.
When it was very much and though let's say in the wintertime.
Less so now.
No -- that is not my vantage point my vantage point is that time my voice right now is representative of the fastest growing segment of American politics today.
It's young people who realize that they are screwed.
That they're not gonna have any retirement that they're not gonna have any health care they're gonna have to work the rest of their lives president Obama's health care plan relies on a group of healthy people.
Getting insurance to pay for those that aren't so -- well that's young people young people are graduating from college today.
Now with a whole mortgage without a home and I'm talking now about student loans and what's the ultimate.
Cause for a high tuition in this country it's a government guaranteeing student loans I mean so what the president Johnson wouldn't do that.
Well -- and president Johnson would point out why there is such high tuition in this country and cutting that off would result in not.
Institutions of higher learning lowering the cost of their goods and services I guarantee itself but is it is sell the plants the seeds for a third party down the road under you look at Barry gold water now.
Selling a conservative message that laid the ground work for.
A Ronald Reagan.
What sixteen years later well we'll we'll see Ross Perot when he ran as a third party was he ultimately responsible for a balanced budget was he ultimately responsible for a revolution.
Then I'm gonna say resulted in -- fiscal sanity.
But he could have gone further and not months down you don't and -- and not -- -- 172 and Connecticut kind of spot -- governor thank you very very much.
