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The Federal Reserve not holding back in its fight to revive the economy.
My next guest hears however extended low interest rates -- -- could leave the United States into what he calls and liquidity trap.
Joining us now is Peter Fisher he has had a fixed income BlackRock former undersecretary.
The United States Treasury Department.
Great to have you here at the pleasure -- -- let.
What -- -- mark give us the the mark or Ben Bernanke and his action today.
Well he's worried about the economy he should be the world economy slowing Europe's in crisis China slowing down the US is not growing as fast as any of us would like.
So if you're the chairman of the failure worried you want to try to do something.
So he did for things today really.
Two of them quite extraordinary.
City by forty billion of mortgages a month in addition to what is buying now it's about 85 billion he's going to be buying a month of assets.
The start to settle a lot like a trillion dollars that -- that it's gonna add up he said on top of that he just keep doing that until he thought the labour market would be improving.
He didn't say when -- -- -- is to keep doing it and he gave us the metric yes -- labour market forecast for the labour market.
He -- to other things he extended.
How long they'll hold short term interest rates down almost zero -- 2015.
And then he said on top of that we're gonna keep monetary policy easy even after the economy's recovery.
So -- -- for different messages.
And got a big reaction in the equity markets summary actually interest rate or some reaction the you'll code came back from movement -- sort of pushed down a little -- -- from a heart level perhaps.
-- -- -- -- Yes it it had its biggest impact in the middle of the yield curve where the threat to file those mortgages.
Looks like it's taking out the kind of interest rates that are around the five to seven year -- so that's where -- had the biggest and he is the support.
-- and I think of the housing market itself doctorate with the support of all housing market which is one of those.
You know about members starting to get rhetoric and -- starting to look like it could use you know.
The bellows of the Fed to get the fire going what do you think.
Well may be I think the housing market stabilized that's good with the prices -- -- you know stabilize and go up in some parts of the country.
Housing is only 2% of -- we now.
So we can stimulate it.
It's not gonna move the needle on the overall economy the way we were used to seeing it happen so we don't need that we don't need this is William back.
We don't -- it was a bit -- -- it's nice to stimulate the housing market it's a good thing I don't wanna say you know that's that's up positive.
But is -- a big enough positive to offset the negative risk and I'm worried about that they're discouraging.
Other lending the Fed's replacing private -- They did -- -- Interbank market.
There really all the pipes now run through the Fed the way -- pumped all those reserves in the banking system.
-- is going to be buying all these mortgages themselves sucking mortgage supply out of the market driving down rates stimulates -- Thing you know they'll just own all of that that the country took that that -- a fair bit of it.
But that diminishes the likelihood the rest of -- one homeland and we worry about whether rates will suddenly back up in the future.
He we get compensated for lending if where investors on behalf of a pension fund -- insurance company.
We get a little spread and -- has to cover us for the risk that rates that go up or down my face are going up we're gonna lose money for those pensions.
So we're -- protect ourselves against that and at what we're getting.
-- is too little.
Let me ask you wanna ask each guest here tonight.
-- In the end is.
Well let's move why the nonsense of the campaign.
The sort of -- whatsoever it's raised -- -- and the platitudes.
From mines that are sputtering from the left and the right.
What is it going to take in the near term specifically to get this economy growing -- -- -- We have to get more business fixed investment we have to make businessmen want to build factories wanna expand the factories and plants they -- That's the be all and end -- it's about business confidence and business fixed investment.
Wants stable interest rate outlook.
Don't wanna frighten most corporate planners are trying to figure out -- sound like a bunch of what six point one didn't become capital later -- -- -- become de rigueur.
In American free enterprise capitalism.
That small businessmen and women.
That the titans of industry.
And the leaders of US multinationals.
Everything has to be so predictable and everything must be predictive and risk must not not encroach upon one sunny disposition.
What in the world is -- Well maybe it is just a few too many risks weighing on the might think you're being a little harsh on the -- -- -- America I think it's a very uncertain world I've only doing it -- maybe top law does love.
But so I think it's there's a lot of uncertainty weighing on and we got to start peeling back -- uncertainty so you can say they shouldn't be cowards but we gotta help them build up I never does it.
-- -- capitals always account.
Capital always wants the safe return.
So it turns out that we're agree.
I think we're north -- Peter great to have your.