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Our way to Christopher karate right out -- is actually -- patent attorney someone's expert in -- In Chicago Christopher your reaction to this.
-- -- -- so far we're waiting right now we've just got the findings of infringement on the first ten questions there's a critical eleventh question here which we should have now we're gonna -- validity of these patents so -- it's possible that you could find that the patents were indeed infringed but yet not valid so.
We should hold off before rushing to judgment with respect to the validity hearing them -- what this means for apple but right now Apple's 11 part of the equation.
Let me ask you this though are you surprised -- what appears to be a home run here for apple.
Well at I think that the the particular -- with questions here -- judge Coe has already decided on the 89 patent and in a sense and even though that was one loss for apple the rest of the stuff here is that the resounding victory for apple app for that matter for design rights in general.
Are right at least you take a look at this for a second you know it.
It consumers out there -- the apple as the white Knight Rider is no doubt about it.
And they are incredibly well -- you're talking about the jury and ending of the jury what I did take that it takes into consideration.
Yes they follow the law absolutely and they've been sworn to do that.
But they don't leave their common sense of the door they see that one company is infringing on other companies.
-- they see that that's unfairness of the documents of that apple was able to bring in saying that Samsung.
It was after -- was going to try to do this to bring them down and that's what they think they came to such a quick.
Verdict here -- Christopher I have a question for you about what's going on with intellectual property right now it seems to me there's sort of it Armageddon.
Started out more details here from Adam Shapiro -- Those patents are valid -- the jury found that the apple -- Pattinson are valid.
Are right Chris Syria action.
-- they are sure well of this is then it's pretty settle this is a resounding victory for apple.
And I I would I would note that when we're gonna get the question 24 that's the question regarding the damages.
That we're talking about design patent damages this could be significant because it's going to be Samsung's profits which will be the award.
And this is how we get up to these big dollar numbers of multi billion dollar number so lets -- stay tuned on that.
Aren't up also wanting to know which one thing that probably no two is that there was some findings of willful infringement willful patent infringement ice on the -- verdict -- so far so that means traveling of damages of -- this number's going to be a big -- All right so how many -- ten seconds here what do you -- Well it's these huge landmark win for apple the company picked -- stepped forward.
And the only huge question left is the injunction.
I think it's likely that this is going to be an avalanche and that continued rolling in victory for apple -- the move forward in the case.
Least TO treble damages that's huge that's going to be litigated for years aren't got a lot to go here -- -- the last word.
I don't think the point about patent was to make a situation -- only apple could make iPad for the next eighteen or how many years they have left a lot of people debate on the show always -- -- -- everything thank you panel here.
Christopher -- -- will Jonas Max Ferris.
And Seth -- why all you guys did a fantastic job Adam Shapiro thank you for the --
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