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Is the lead attorney in a federal lawsuit against Homeland Security secretary John and -- -- and immigration and customs enforcement director John Morton.
He's representing ten ice agents lawsuit maintaining the Obama administration.
Is forcing its agents to break the law.
Joining us now is -- -- was also going Kansas secretary of state -- of numerous and by illegal immigration state laws.
Chris good to have you with us that this is remarkable that agents -- to us through the secretary of the department in which they work so they can enforce -- law.
Yet it's amazing.
In the Polycom -- has put these agents between a rock and a hard place basically there's a federal statute that says.
Illegal aliens and under these circumstances must be deported not may be deported but must be put in removal proceedings.
And that the Polycom is directive from June tells them know you're supposed to let him go and so if they -- -- -- -- tunnels orders the breaking federal law.
If they.
If they go ahead and follow the law.
Then they can be suspended or punished for disobeying a superior so they ultimately had no choice but to sue and say look we've swore an oath.
To uphold the law and to enforce the law.
And that's where this case is going east and northern district of Texas.
While it is not my judge -- or do you expect the judge.
A decision.
It really depends on how -- the judge will schedule this will be asking for a preliminary injunction.
I would hope that within a couple of months we could have an injunction maybe sooner than it all depends on the judge and and we haven't had a chance to.
Have a scheduling conference with -- just -- Richard Trumka coming up to slam your lawsuit he said.
These agents talking about your clients are working with some of the most anti immigrant forces in the country forces that have long.
So division and destruction.
That's an interest in position for one -- our country's labor leaders today debt.
Well did you notice he didn't actually have anything substantive to say -- said was.
These brave ice agents are associating with apparently people like me -- think we should enforce our laws -- I guess that means sowing division.
You know he could have said well here are some arguments are some reasons why the agents.
It shouldn't bring -- -- but of course he didn't he just tries to slander and go into an ad hominem kind of mode but you know I the other thing that's actually about trumka.
Look at these agents are trying to enforce our laws.
Did non enforcement of immigration laws has hurt the American worker.
In amazing amounts of money in lost wages you look at every single industry were illegal immigration is president.
Wages have gone down they have even remain stable they've gone down over the over the past two decades.
-- so here's this guy -- he is not worried that American blue collar workers are losing their earnings instead he's worried about how telling to Obama and because Obama.
Doesn't want to enforce our laws he doesn't want to enforce our laws it it's just shameful I mean.
I don't know why the unions have leadership like this when they aren't even looking out for the interest of -- workers.
-- it is as you know also upset with the Obama administration itself and his group holding on his or complete embrace.
Of the of the campaign.
Up for re election.
If the same time we're.
Of course reporting here on desperate labor shortage particularly.
In the produce fields of California.
The southwest.
At the same time those growers are confronted with the the -- of -- So we have -- an extraordinary.
If you will -- -- intersection of various forces at work here and illegal immigration most of those workers as you know are illegal.
And at the same time the president bragging about not deporting and its final initially about -- report.
I mean it's really.
Again appeared in which we are watching the system.
The numbers and reality.
All big game.
Well and and the other thing here is that the rule of law has become fatally undermined.
The entire illegal alien community.
Knows that this president is not enforcing the law it's gotten so bad and the ice agents who brought the suit I've you know I've talked with Christopher Crane.
The lead plaintiff -- extensively you know -- In my wildest nightmares I never imagined if you get this bad but literally they are being told.
The illegal -- just test Italian he's under the age of 31 and that he had came to high school that's it.
You can't ask the you can't ask the illegal alien to prove it you have to accept his word and then let him go release and as long as he says those magic words.
And they're releasing people who have been arrested for crimes for felonies and under this Obama directive understand -- -- -- directive.
They just have to let him go I mean it's it's complete lawlessness and that in turn that creates other problems throughout the system because there's now no credible enforcement at the federal level.
Is this going to be discussed -- -- governor Romney is this going to be discussed.
By the campaigns.
Part of -- presidential election is to create a national consensus is this going to be an issue of discussion.
You know I honestly don't know -- what what is gonna the issue which -- what issues the the Romney campaign will make its front and center issues and which -- the Obama campaign well.
I hope it is and I hope it's an honest discussion as you mentioned before the break.
B we've got DHS cooking the numbers and you mentioned how actually now we know that responders are there's been -- up 90% decrease.
There's another element here there's another 40000 so called deportations that are -- accounted for it could be even lower than that.
Chris comeback thanks for being here appreciate.
-- pleasure --
