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The harder part I'm told we all should vote bit over population is what makes poor people who.
Higher education is the single most important investment -- told you should go to college I am so upset.
Politicians say Olympic gold they must be made in America.
People think they know why people free look at.
So wait a couple of -- what you think you know Bob is not soft -- catching fire.
Myths and truths.
That's our show.
What your faith you know may not.
-- so connect me we know a lot.
We go to school read watch TV learned from parents friends.
Why would what we know -- not -- self.
'cause our instincts are often wrong took me too long to learn that.
When -- as a consumer reporter I thought government regulation -- the solution to consumers being ripped off.
Wrong regulation hurt consumers more.
I thought America was running out of fuel that over population was a big problem that it's crucial that things be made in America.
Wrong that you can all wrong let's start with the made in America friends so it helps them.
Majority leader Harry Reid and others are upset that.
The US Olympic Committee bought uniforms made in China.
I think patient people you want to put him in the big pile and burn and start over again.
-- people and excellent history we're desperate for jobs yes.
People are desperate for jobs -- an outrageous when Americans need jobs we buy uniforms made overseas.
Well no actually it's still -- to worry about that took me to long to understand the concept so let me bring in some professional help.
Art -- and economist from Stanford University so.
-- why not worry about sending work to other countries.
Because the fundamental thing about -- it makes everybody better off.
Trade benefits both of the countries that are able to engage in trade it benefits both of the parties that are able to engage in trade.
But those uniforms could have been made by American workers they're not the cost that makes sense the problem in the United States -- -- so much better at so many different things that quite honestly making garments is no longer our look at what economists call comparative advantage.
I wouldn't necessarily call that a problem I would call it an advantage because those jobs being a seamstress or worker -- loom.
Our our factory jobs that are not so pleasant and now even -- those clothes are made in America they're designed or marketed or sold here there.
Shipped in trucks made in America they're built on machines made by Americans and all the Chinese workers made those garments.
The Chinese Olympic team will fly to London on American made planes and American designed plane's track and they're going to be wearing US designed footwear cut.
And this makes us all richer.
Yeah it absolutely does people don't get that.
Right people don't want to argue that the that the American uniforms were not manufactured in China.
-- they were grown in the soybean field in Iowa something that we export to China soybeans because we're incredibly productive.
In the soybean market.
We get more uniforms at lower prices.
The Chinese get more soybeans at lower prices they get higher wages we get lower prices everybody wins.
And if we insisted that everything be made in America all the Olympic clothing we'd be poor absolutely couple other myths for.
Over population I was told that -- why.
Asia's -- that's why Africa's -- it's a big problem.
Yeah the problem is not that there are too many people.
The problem is for the most part they don't have free markets they have bad governments -- autocracy is to take care resources.
I think one way that opened one thing that opened my brain about it was -- look at some of the population data I heard that Nigeria's four.
Because of over population.
Pakistan's poor because of -- over population and look Nigeria Pakistan.
They have a 174.
People per square mile 225.
People per square five mile.
But that's half what the Netherlands hands and Holland this rich and it's 110 what Hong Kong and Singapore have.
And they're really were it.
Got people's ultimate resource.
Is the mind and indeed one thing that's interesting -- people is more -- absolutely invent more people.
Moore brings more people closer together in urban areas means more conversations.
Over population is not a problem actually and related to that I'm told were running out of fuel I've been told that for years Jimmy Carter.
Said we're now running out of gas and oil.
Would happen the next decade that's more than thirty years ago right but.
If we are in fact running out of oil that implies that prices should be rising over the very very long run but for the most part.
For the most part for decades oil's been getting cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and even as it does start to get more expensive people start the search for substitutes.
They look for more oil.
They look for things like natural gas people.
These brains keep inventing new ways to suck more oil out -- sea whales find more oil.
Dig deeper we have stores of much more oil and gas now than we did get when President Carter was saying we're putting out.
-- we've touched on some of these national -- let's go -- -- more about your personal choices there's a popular blog called -- secure confidential.
It gives contrarian.
Personal advice like he should un school your kids.
It's written by Internet entrepreneur James -- sure he made millions by started a website stock -- that comments selling that a couple of companies what do you mean -- school your kids.
So what does that mean it means our kids are being tied to go to the bathroom walk move eat.
Pay attention all of I have now in a school and where they actually remember from school all educate my kids.
Better than the government at this point so my kids and I learning -- -- -- don't want to most people want to home school their kids your form their own school week.
Trust the experts the experts are getting funding based on the lowest common denominator so they teach their kids do well.
On fill in the circle tests and that's it there's no other learning it's clear chain to a desk.
Listening to the -- appointee to the law and we've all been there how what did you learn in school what do you remember wet when bush Charlemagne -- I can't.
Ask anyone who can tell me when Charlemagne was born and that's and I know that's a fact that learn in school so pull him out of school and just get together with the neighbors and invent something.
Well no you give them opportunities to learn so have books and now we'll have dry amateurism -- all have them play sports Nolan wants to say listen to someone lecture for six hours.
But I'm willing to pay my kids.
Page -- book to to read -- someone to pay my kids.
To write reviews of books I'll set up my social play dates with my kids -- other kids are either being home schooled on schooled.
-- schooling all right we're told he got to go to college.
Especially get a job chart which a total mess we know that this is scam prepare perpetuated not only by the banks with the government to get.
-- -- college's student and the colleges yet tuitions have gone up a 1000% at the same time that inflation is gone up 300%.
So why have tuition has gone up so much that really that valuable to learn.
To get a college degrees -- this I imagine if you had a five year head start and no student loan debt I'm sure and you have the same ambition and aggressiveness as someone who went to school lunch.
Or you would do better twenty years later.
Number one we're told everybody should vote you need devote -- you know we all live in New York State so.
What what good is are we don't care who you may not but and most of you live in a state where this is true Garnett has -- maybe 45 battleground states where your votes have some way I'm not only the governor level the president level once on -- if you live in Colorado Florida Ohio Michigan Nevada New Mexico and Ohio and states down.
It could be a one vote election so think about that.
Finally you both say don't be so scared.
-- -- Well look at the news today the news every day the news is growing worries about Europe worries about Greece the reality is.
Things are going pretty well America bit the economy is actually growing you would think we're in a horrible recession based on the headlines.
But it's not but we have this biological need.
To be scared of things that that the people that we evolved from ran away from the running out and -- they get trampled by the offense so we're always looking out.
For the predators but the reality is it's okay for things to be good once in awhile but all the headlines what would suggest things -- bad.
Hey I'm a consumer reporter I've done -- to Swine Flu Avian flu global warming -- mad cow disease what happened -- with Avian -- where was that where the birds -- -- killed us if you might have gotten brain cancer for yourself -- -- -- -- -- -- right now.
And can you say art.
It could happen that is one of the most dangerous phrases in the English language yes it is because people tend to systematically over estimate very very very very small risks.
For most of the -- people freak out about like for example threat of terrorism the -- to your child might be abducted playing in the front yard things like that.
If that seat if you're genuinely like what apple worry about it it is what people it is what people worry about but if you're genuinely worried about but -- never get in the car again.
Because the risk of driving for example is so -- so so much more greater.
As he sees me so much greater then the risk of dying in a terrorist attack or something like that or even the risk of being killed by a Deere -- right you drive -- -- dear yeah or dying of a peanut allergy or something like that.
But terrorism is a bigger deal with killed 3000 people here in an absolute.
But then cost us another ten trillion dollars in war is it made the rest of the world hate us and they increase the -- in some cases of terrorism or other on -- happening in the Middle East.
On that no food for thought you couldn't take it or leave it but to hate you art and James what.
We think we -- often is an -- So I agree with most of what they -- coming -- To make a point about this -- stick my hand in flames.
How the EPA which is supposed to protect us actually kills people.
Thank goodness for government.
It's not something -- he often but there are some things I want my government to do.
Including one thing not listed in the years in the constitution something the founders never thought about pollution control.
My beloved free market isn't so great handling -- 11 factory smoke goes to other people's -- was the factory care.
Some libertarians argue we could -- the polluters.
But -- legal systems so gum -- that really wouldn't work would take for ever cost a fortune mostly in rich the lawyers.
So that's why I say thank goodness for the EPA the Environmental Protection Agency.
They made the air cleaner than it used to be when I was a kid in this -- couldn't open windows -- would come it.
Now we -- and thank goodness for water pollution rules that river just outside at the studio was once disgust -- But now that's different.
Even here within sight of the Empire State Building within a short distance of millions of people -- I'm willing to do that.
I lived to tell about it -- Hudson is totally -- -- now so it's great that government has cleaned up the -- in the water.
But now that they've accomplished that to then say okay we've done most of the good we can do in shrink.
No government never does that they always want to do more and that upsets one medical doctor he says the EPA now kills people.
This doctor also happens to be -- US senator senator John Barrasso from Wyoming so what do you mean killing people.
Well actually come out with a report -- -- a member of the environment and public works committee the United States senate in the report is red tape is making Americans.
Sick and it's the result of the high unemployment rate when people lose their jobs that are out of work for long periods of time as we're seeing.
Right now with over 8% unemployment.
Those folks were out of work what want to go to work our.
Morrison -- of illness of hospitalizations.
And a premature death.
And it's because of these incredible number of rules and regulations that are very closely to our economy and -- look very little benefit to the environment.
Now after years of consumer reporting I -- -- under the same conclusion but I assume wouldn't -- say this to most people they say.
-- you talking about the EPA makes the world cleaner makes America cleaner and that has to be good for our health.
The tangential reaction to unemployment making people sick.
What if you take a look at where we used to be forty years ago and where we are now the air is cleaner the water is cleaner all of the -- -- are true -- -- absolutely.
And -- now at a point where to get a very small improvement.
Is very expensive in terms of actual dollars in -- in production of energy as well listen the health of people that are that are out of work.
We see a higher risk of of high blood pressure.
You -- stroke heart disease as well as depression anxiety.
Amazingly higher incidence of cancer in these people and higher -- a suicide.
The EPA rule means that the factory may not open.
It means that every business takes longer ago.
It means that money that might have gone.
To create new things now goes to pollution controls which we want that that doesn't create jobs that.
A free economy to -- and it also closes down coal fire power plants and they're over fifty across the country that have either closed or announced they've closed.
The impact of that one of communities and all of those lost jobs which are good paying jobs -- benefits.
Is devastating to that community this administration.
Has now issued.
Over thirteen hundred finalized over thirteen hundred.
That are called economically significant regulations meaning they cost to the economy even the administration the EPA admits that upset that the cost is over.
A hundred million dollars per regulation.
And the EPA says all but the benefits are so great and the benefits they claim are -- reduction in future.
Health care costs to people.
But there's no way to prove that -- mean the cost are real the benefits.
But yet these people are out of work we still have this long period of but employment in this country and we know that people are being made sick.
By the regulations because they can't get back to work.
The EPA has a press release they issued on this the benefits -- of avoiding early death.
Preventing heart attacks and -- not far exceed the costs of implementing clean air rules.
Well that that's their made up numbers these are people that are sitting behind their computer screens were fixated on.
And we found that they are cooking the books.
Fundamentally we see that people that are out of work for an extended period of time have chronic long term unemployment.
Higher risks of premature death higher risks heart disease higher risk of of of strokes you can kind of run the list of high blood pressure anxiety depression police chiefs now are reporting.
Higher incidence of spousal abuse in a number of cities they say it absolutely has to do.
With the economy and the unemployment and what what reaction do you get from your fellow senators when you say this because this is.
Hard to get your brain around.
-- colleagues on my side of the island people who practice medicine like I have for 25 years and have.
Taking care of individual patients who have been out of work for extended periods of time know the added stress that that puts on a family they understand that.
People who are fixated with the EPA they're following a -- different.
Drummer and really -- buying into so many of the beliefs of the extreme environmentalists.
Now that this show is titled what you think he had -- may not be sell people think -- know that the EPA is saving us every day and here's a reaction to your argument from a big deal California's senator senator brass -- comments lead me believe he lives in an alternate universe.
An alternative universe -- what my neighbors in New York say when I say this stuff.
But barber is the chair of the environment and public works committee which is why I'm working so hard to have the Republicans take over the senate he's not a year and a she's will not arguing that she will not be the chairman anymore in the Democrats and their environmental agenda.
Which is an extreme agenda won't be in charge and calling the shots on this I worry about this unemployment rate.
Which continues to be so high so many Americans out of work I want to get a healthy economy and a healthy environment and I think we.
Can do absolutely both of them of what we follow this extreme environmental agenda which is very very costly in the event -- benefits really are.
Unknown I don't think we're helping our country.
Thank you senator John Barrasso coming up more examples of how what -- I think you know may not be self.
For example do you Steele.
You say no but my cameras caught people in the.
We all have biases but I grew up believing that sciences.
Smart of course but also unusually unbiased.
At some people described them.
They're very and act tearing down there -- people probably Mary -- So yeah I know a lot of research scientist people who are -- -- Well some ups and just -- drive my older Brothers the sciences he can be very dry.
-- -- second he's also weird and angry sometimes and that volunteer volatility.
Is common in science is the author of free radicals the secret anarchy.
And -- pieces physicist Michael Brooks is what's given us some of the greatest scientific breakthrough so anarchy.
Yeah -- and the -- -- thing for ruled.
Sometimes drug taking there's all kinds of things go on to get the job done -- that's -- Pick it apart their drug taking you say 15.
Worldwide I think the number be higher -- -- states.
Take drugs and that was voluntary self.
Disclose so this -- surveyed about publication HM by nature and them and they said that they would be happy to -- -- to.
Do this occasion in order to concentrate more or -- -- be more creative.
To have votes that nobody else that has.
The merits of the well documented cases of people who've actually done extraordinary things well it.
Well they're having taken these kind of substances.
That scientists who won a Nobel Prize for his work on DNA claims he was hot and Ellis -- well as a man -- Kary mullis who won the Nobel Prize he said he couldn't have done it without taking out of state.
And today he in fact said he -- if he hadn't thing that I think he does doesn't think you'd have the Nobel Prize and that helped him and to find a way to copy DNA.
They also break the rule it's very Marshall who.
Cured all search for lots of people around the world by discovering it was a bacteria cannot.
It he had to break what rules well he'd read the ethical rules about you know how you to go about doing experiment you get pre approval.
You -- don't involve your colleagues -- -- that might be dangerous.
And but in order to make its breakthrough when his Nobel Prize he drank a couple of bacteria.
Basically to prove that they would cause stomach -- inside of him and his colleagues had -- kind of just go along -- there's -- -- -- -- -- don't tell thing.
So they took samples from him and should keep it quiet yeah absolutely that he didn't even tell his wife he said it would be easier to get forgiveness -- -- -- there.
But thank goodness that he did -- thing -- -- because all these people who were drinking milk and doing other pointless remedies for -- now.
The ulcers are gone because there's an anti bacteria exactly Hillary rewrote the book on on how you treat -- He talked about fighting fraud lies -- Visit that -- sort of with the fifth fight the break -- university seminars every now and then.
The certainly a lot of deceit and fraud because on.
And 13 of scientific she admits to.
Committing some kind of -- fraud in the last three years again another survey that was done to disclosing it for themselves and they -- this is just what you gonna do to get the job done really because the data doesn't always behave itself the -- don't always replicate like you expect them to.
And your colleagues are also -- to get you so you have to work really hard to make sure that you've got the results that you want our.
My brother -- is upset about all these new financial disclosure rules because people think hole if there's money to -- -- -- -- the science but.
He says just competition as we we want to kill each other that we put my colleagues could run over their grandmothers to get.
Absolutely I mean there's no prize for second place in science -- -- -- come across very many rich scientists there is no way of of making a lot of money fame goalie had it's -- your place in history of from the -- for making this discovery.
And so it's an intensely competitive thing so why don't people know about this anarchy.
Well it's interesting because science is effectively like a brand and -- wanted to kind of -- make itself look good.
And that it goes all the way back to the second world war in fact when people hate to -- it produced the atomic bomb.
It heads we've seen -- being used we've seen -- experiments on prisoners of war and only -- really in the name of science effectively.
The people who were very distrustful of scientists.
And the scientists knew that -- they started to kind of make so that they didn't do anything the public might be -- -- schedule so they sort of portray themselves as ultra objective and rational.
Multi person trustworthy trustworthy is a big thing reliable wind up -- the blow up the world we're gonna make the world -- better place and even Albert Einstein where everybody knows you say there's a big myth about him.
Einstein we were taught I was -- came up and prove the theory of relativity.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Even if he's gonna.
Well he was brilliant but equals MC squared.
Not quite Einstein's interestingly -- and wounded during most of his lifetime and and the problem was he tried to prove it about eight times.
And every time there was something wrong with -- -- he fudged it.
I think -- -- -- in the footnote to one point in the footnote that the one of his papers is that of course this -- rigorous but let's go on anyway.
And his colleagues who knew this and the pointed out to him but he was having on the victory the by the end of his life he -- his autobiography he had his autobiography he covered every other thing -- done in science but he did he left it with and beat these right now.
I think that tells you what what yes -- ultimately -- You argue that scientists -- admit the stuff open up.
I think first I have mixed scientists human in we will -- Pittston data will be Garrett at the link here.
I don't think we well I think the -- -- schedule people -- -- a -- like -- you know -- like zombies and robots but actually we like human -- and we'll forgive them that.
Flaws and then these kind of behaviors because -- actually did it just makes them all accounts.
Thank you Michael -- coming up.
What you don't know about -- -- -- -- Ever.
Come Eli to be polite to people right you say you look fit.
Or maybe take -- home from work.
Of course you probably don't take pay cash home from work so why where's the library.
Intuition tells us that what stops people from cheating or stealing -- when the risk of being caught.
For the severity of punishment exceeds the benefit.
Getting something for nothing.
But the author of the honest truth about this honestly how we -- to everyone especially ourselves.
Says that's not the reasons he's.
An area -- psychology -- do so it's not about get away with it.
And no upload getting -- to a small part of it.
Turns out that the biggest effect comes from the fact that you have to look convictions on one hand we want to view yourself as on this wonderful caring people.
Well other -- we want to benefit from -- almost.
And what we do is we try to balance the two forces they could how could you do both you're either honest or you cheat perhaps as -- music he just a little bit.
We can she can still single puts up with honest people so for example taking -- work.
What's quite well -- petty cash.
Away doesn't work because you can't justify to the same degree the fact it is money really feels like steel.
That expensive books a little easier.
If we didn't gulf you know there's easy ways and she can gulf and how the -- if you take the bull a new movie for each is deliberately this is just a no no.
But kicking -- a little bit -- keeping it slightly and moving just a -- because if you didn't intend to all the sun is okay.
And what's the psychological rationale for the psychological is basically about Russian -- age.
It wasn't really me everybody else is doing this this is really what the intent and -- -- Are at the everybody else is doing an idea of it that you say cheating is contagious.
Like an infection in -- thing we teach kids how to -- we tell them to be to be put lights by the people know somebody would.
-- injury when kids pointed to me and ask him -- we did what happened to that guy Canon's always had -- -- -- building you've had an injury your face was burned area explosion.
And most of my body it was good so in the have.
Shorts or something it's it's much more.
Much more clear and when kids pointed that the president don't don't do that but it's input -- how is it cheating it to state of the kid.
Don't embarrass him -- -- point to -- he basically said to the kids that don't say everything is on your mind.
Basically you had fully on -- fully honest you can have been inside dialogue but don't make keeps external BC is just not something people do we have to.
Keep -- front that he's not perfectly honest doping in sports.
So I think blood doping means we get all these news reports about all these people who go in sports but I imagine you're an athletes.
What do you think is acceptable -- not acceptable where would you find out if they every from the other athletes Ferrell doing it you're a soccer if you don't.
Question and that there's a physician that -- me and he said that he actually has lots of patients book athletes.
And he thinks that the actual amount of doping these lower than what people believe.
But if people believe if everybody's doing it.
Noticed that it is we can do it does well the same thing about illegal downloads -- everybody's doing it's perfectly fine to do with as well why.
I tested this power of the -- effect once when I was an AB CA went to my -- beach and got the fountain blue hotel to put out of buff -- Under a banner that said SF in society.
We weren't expecting their members since we -- good group up.
This -- stands for something for nothing.
But the thing it was appealing -- chopped shrimp fruit people quickly started inspecting the food.
So when you think you're that if you're the psychologists -- people take the -- what I would predict is that we've really hard to be the first person.
There's something pristine out there and if you the first person -- a signal to basically that nobody else of touched before so if you're the first person be really hard.
But want something stopped breaking done.
I'm may have predicting a slew of people -- -- to run.
A positive effect -- well that's exactly what happened we put the stuff out for five minutes nobody.
-- that they respected other people's property.
And I was worried that I waste all this money this experiment for nothing.
-- Others did start to take and then -- did and I confronted some of the about it and most were embarrassed.
This is -- FF -- all of our.
-- -- -- you can keep it I had it.
But many freeloaders -- -- ashamed at all I embarrassed -- -- you.
Basically you're coming in the first five trips there.
So I -- a couple out.
Not -- -- -- that.
Teachers are not paid enough she said so this is the kind of rationale is that people use yet.
And it teaches -- -- enough insurance company cheated us at some point in the past everybody's doing it does not the real way to -- the stories we can tell assaults at the moment.
And this group affect you tested yourself at Carnegie Mellon University which -- and to this extent would we -- a sheet of paper.
We twenty simple math problems -- everybody -- -- if we give them enough time.
But we don't you -- enough time.
So again initiate an -- -- was ready as you can into in the five minutes and I'll pay you -- performance you go ahead you sold as many as you can and end of the five plays -- they stop.
Count how many questions you got correctly and now that you know that number or go to the back of the room and shred it piece of that.
You go you -- a piece of paper as a comeback and tell me how -- questioned about correctly so it's totally honor system -- on the system and you.
Destroyed evidence and people report an average six problems now what people don't willing to experiment is that we played with a shred.
So this should only should the sides -- the page but the main blog of the page remaining -- we can jumping and find out.
On the question people really sold and -- average in front of people -- floor and reports six.
Local people -- a little with very few people to get up and also the people to -- a few question.
Now to test the group effect we added two components the first thing he's behind that seems to.
And that -- synthetic -- -- that would raise their attendance at I sold everything.
And he was obviously cheat -- if you an experiment you still what you'd probably want you know that nobody -- sold everything.
And day in the second thing we did was we gave people all the money up front and they paid himself -- and that.
And date the moment to raise his hand experiment is that you know what you solve everything -- and an up and go home and now you see somebody cheats in an egregious way.
When I copied it.
Lots of people competent -- there's two ways to think about it one way is to say we just -- to people -- -- experiment you can -- get away with it.
The other thing is to say it attendees the demonstration told people -- people liked it from the same social group of cheap.
So which one of those with -- in the few ways with one of them was we changed out feat of acting student.
Everybody makes -- it was a Carnegie -- student in the regular conditioned to student work colleague Millen.
Outfit in the second experiment he was -- University of Pittsburgh -- -- when he was to leave this from a different school but he's now not one of us that's I think what -- -- -- group.
But what happens when somebody -- an out group cheats should be actually wind down.
People -- all -- is involved and these other people that we don't like so much I'm not gonna do not -- -- that and people became.
We're honest what else do we do to increase on us what you're tests have found some things so we found that lovely thing which we asked of group of about 500 students and trying to called the ten commandments.
Sadly none of them could recall that commandments and some of them invented but they thought about the command -- -- about it and what happened -- what.
When we gave him a chance to -- in the same way nobody did.
It's not that -- the people who remembered more commandments -- different note the moment people fault about the ten commandments they still cheap.
Even if we take Celtic could atheist and we get -- do so in the Bible they still keep thinking about morality and honesty.
Made people more on basic -- for the moment at least for a while it gets -- to be more restrictive annual and investigation of fuel morality -- -- -- -- vigilant about it and -- -- we behave.
But that's one of the tricks but I think we should do the more often think you -- -- coming up -- what you I think you know.
-- It's forest fire season.
Fires are raging out west destroying homes fast sections of forest.
Who leads the fight against these fires.
The US Forest Service.
-- spend billions fighting fires often spraying chemicals right near the fire fire retardant -- that are supposed to slow its spread.
Given the fighting these fires is what the Forest Service -- I would think they'd be careful to use the right flame -- but do then.
The Forest Service is one more government bureaucracy after all how often does.
Government adopt the latest techniques -- -- -- offer this government changed at all.
So I'm not surprised that Peter -- Donnie says he has a better flame retardant one that's -- used by more than 200 fire departments.
But not the Forest Service.
-- Kleinman used to work for the Forest Service but now he works for Peter.
So Peter here in venture he makes oil and answers different for -- is not normal business.
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And they said many men -- upon something it's unbelievable.
And the fire departments hundreds of them have embraced it and Susie asked -- and some government agencies.
Very unique because you can use it.
Direct infringement on a fart you can cool far down you can create a fire break and they can be used for numerous the farmers.
So Ed you worked for the Forest Service if this is better and I say this because you -- well let's play -- there -- Show this to be stuff here.
If this is better.
Why wouldn't the Forest Service -- Basically there kind of stuck in the mold of using one product that they've used for about fifty years in the way that they've used it.
And for one reason or another they're slow to adapt to a product that.
Is just obviously.
The better product.
This is half the price of any fire retardant currently being used -- lighter which is a big issue with the planes they fly overhead.
But they are here's what they say the Forest Service -- only use this stuff because they say it might evaporate by the time the fire gets there what's your answer to that.
Well that's kind of like trying to use spray -- along share in the win from ten feet away.
The -- we're using that the chemical now forest service's most wildfires are suppressed through indirect attack is they're too big they -- too much heat.
For direct attack to be safe.
Well a forest fire isn't light could be avalanche or like tsunami it doesn't just move across the landscape.
It consumes fuel in front of it and it needs fuel available to it in order to propagate itself.
What happens is the fire will propagate itself by spotting.
Out in front of itself and this being able to work behind the fired work on the -- Is something that has always been done -- has done by every other country in the world.
In New Mexico we put five big fires 30400.
-- state the US Forest Service isn't using it but some state government state government just thought -- use because they're fine and it's the way to go.
I mean I mean.
Take a look at what's gone on around us what was in tremendous amount of homes in situations in this product will protect those homes.
And you say this is so good fit.
If I stick my hand in this thing.
I could stick it in fire.
And I wore a wire won't be -- Absolutely firefighters people trapped all time -- Faris of this is one product that you can coach them what to give the swat the team minutes to get you out.
All right so he's says I won't be hurt if I stick my hand and fire my hand won't catch fire let's try it.
Now how -- -- let me try it here inside his studio for some reason they don't trust me up to burn the place down so if we're gonna do this.
We have to go outside -- let's go.
And B I'll stick my hand in the fire after a -- myself but this but let's run the -- will see if he's telling the truth.
We're back outside my studio mysterious right in there.
Heater -- -- claims that his fire worked hard.
Which the US Forest Service won't use.
He's so good.
Then when it's on my -- and I can stick my hand in here.
And I won't be hurt.
What do I do I just tip my hand it is -- yeah.
Scoop it out send things tied together.
Okay not land is catching fire.
-- All right so you have a superior product but the US Forest Service doesn't use.
We think that the government would use the best techniques and best product to fight fires back.
What do you think you know -- -- is -- itself and I've learned that repeatedly in my forty years reporting on but as I researched things I've found that what I thought I know.
-- -- -- good examples for years the experts said we're running out of oil and no we're not.
People told me premium gas is better -- -- -- that makes sense since it costs more but it's not better.
You're wasting your money unless you have a very than usual car.
Everyone knows -- cousins shouldn't and can't legally get married.
Turns out that isn't true either cousins can't legally marry and half the states.
Everyone knows women are bad drivers but where's the evidence it turns out -- demand pay higher insurance rates because we are much we're likely to crash.
One more minute we have a full -- -- Now.
-- police and hospital workers tell us when the balloons fall there are more accidents and more crying so about the full moon makes people crazy.
But scientists looked at the data and it turns out that's totally false so.
The -- think it's true because when there's lots happening and there's a formal and they know is that they remember the connection.
When there's no full -- you -- remember.
There there's so many myths and stupid things that people believe I wrote a book about them but I soon realized.
The biggest -- and the most dangerous one is that when we have problems and solutions.
Most likely come from government.
It's intuitive to think that the wise people in Washington State capitals know more than we therefore they should plan much of our lives but it's not true.
That's why I wrote my no -- no they can't.
Because we free people pursuing our own interests are far more likely to solve problems.
Government fails but individual six -- Individuals.
Like -- individuals create prosperity if the politicians and bureaucrats.
Will just get out of the way.
That's our show thanks for not -- me and fire and thank you for watching good night.
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