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Days away from the Supreme Court decision is expected any day now what will they say about Obama care.
And just as important what happens now.
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The Supreme Court could.
Or next Thursday whether obamacare is unconstitutional.
Or if just the mandate is unconstitutional.
What we'll wrap -- Fox News legal analyst least we'll follows the court and joins us from the newsroom least you predict next Monday we'll be.
The day next Monday yes the 25 -- -- sort of the last Monday in the session for the Supreme Court.
And it kind of -- old western image of you know they -- have this decision and get out of dodge before they have asked him any questions that's what I think they're gonna do.
And as far as what we know about the justices' thinking.
All we really knows what we heard at the beginning when the lawyers from both sides made their argument John six hours of arguments I covered for fox radio every every minute of those six hour but what it really came down to what they were really -- sort of -- -- and there in the middle two hours.
Was the idea of the mandate you know hand insurance private insurance being mandated in this country.
-- Scalia asked the government's lawyers if government can force you to buy health insurance can it make people buy broccoli.
And that is an extension LA lawyers like to talk about slippery slope and that's a slippery slope argument.
Saying you know if if you could be mandated to by this private insurance not government contract a private insurance.
I the government about that -- -- in the government can force you to do.
Well I have to pay taxes.
If I drive a car I have to -- assurance that that's a privilege that's something John here's a difference.
With the car you ask for that privilege for the state you're driving on the state roads that that the federal highways -- your tax dollars spyware paying for.
You're going out there and commerce because you want to be -- commerce she wants that privilege of getting from point a to point B in your car.
Then the state can say all right for that privilege you have to have a driver's license and you have to have insurance and that's or saying that you have to have the difference here is the government is saying.
You must have this even if you don't want to even if you decided as individual.
I want insurance helmet tick -- I'm gonna -- my chances on that Scalia also -- joking reference to the complications of the bill I like that he said.
What happened to the ban on cruel and usual punishment.
What you really want us to go through these right 2700.
-- would've been nice -- congress have -- -- -- through the pages before but I you know I digress comment that he took sort of went on to say well we don't really got to look through everything but are up for clerks will have to.
The president said I am confident the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented.
-- overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically.
It is not an everyday pain and extraordinary it may be unprecedented absolutely not I mean that's just a fact.
The Supreme Court that that's why we have the checks and balances if congress passes with the Supreme Court deems to be an unconstitutional.
Then that's kind of what they're -- to do this to say it's unconstitutional.
If they don't do that John you know what are they doing I mean what's their job done.
And in this case -- city just saying it's in constitutional or not they may say part of it's the mandate is unconstitutional but the rest and stay.
Right they issued their course is going to be practicality is take your -- for a second they say the mandate dies the rest of it lives.
I think that know the whole bill does died because the funding for the bill comes through that mandate how are you going to have you know.
Funding to pay for the -- if you don't have the mandate target if you can't force people to buy insurance or be taxed or.
-- maybe they'll just borrow more money because they may keep.
Part of it in force we don't know the does I'll bet though is that the man they will be repealed in trade dot com where people bad about what's gonna happen in the future.
Now indicates an 80% chance that the man they will be struck down.
I listen to those six hours and I really shouldn't go to Vegas about a lot of betting person.
But if you took me to Vegas which -- -- -- talk -- what asked.
I would bet that the mandate.
Will be struck down.
Thank you least we'll -- about it.
Now regardless of whether obamacare is constitutional.
Is -- good for people.
Doctor -- should Sharma of the group doctors for America says yes and in fact government should do more to provide health care for people.
John Goodman says no government should do less he heads the national center for policy and analysts for policy analysis.
And he specialized in health care so what why should government do less.
Right now we have a bureaucratic wasteful inefficient system and when government nationalize is that they will become more -- more bureaucratic.
And the only way out of our problems is a free the doctors and free to patients let them use your intelligence and creativity to solve their own problems.
We're not gonna solve these problems from Washington.
And you this week released a new book called priceless and priceless is.
Part of your meeting is that nobody knows those in -- what things cost the patients don't know all the doctors don't know -- there.
Nobody sees a real price and health care no doctor no patient.
You know for people with food stamps corner -- store and I pay the same prices you're not paying an ever have a problem when accessed in health care we don't let them do that they have a huge problem of access.
Doctor Sherman you would appear to an event with President Obama promoting Obama care you say this is great walk.
I believe that this is a great step so -- in our health care.
And for our country for us to be able to have better health for everybody in America.
Bottom line is is that America's health care is scaling.
And this is a great step so late in being able to make it into the patient centered way of taking care people.
Sounds good John patient centered people -- the applause I should say she.
For has a group of doctors -- struck -- attend backers who.
Agree with her on this and we'll be hearing from you later.
Here's the great irony.
How far most vulnerable populations.
They're gonna have less access to care not more -- what this bill does is greatly expand the demand for -- not just 32 million newly insured but you and me and all the seniors all the rest of us are gonna have more generous insurance -- we have before.
So huge increase in demand no change in supply that's a huge -- problem if -- -- a plan.
That pays below market as like seniors and the same -- Medicare for people on Medicaid.
Our newly subsidize people if we follow Massachusetts example.
They are going to have very real problem finding a Doctor Who see the.
So actually I disagree with you -- -- every day doctor taking care of every day people the notion of knowing.
That there are going to be more doctors to take care of my people and that there are provisions in the affordable care to let that happen.
Is a good thing but I.
I'm not getting him in government isn't good at running things it couldn't run steel mills or even produce food in the Soviet Union why wouldn't make health care better.
All the government gives us protection does it not leaving does a good job in giving our cops and I fired firefighters that's like an old local government slowly allows but there's a whole notion of being able to say let -- starting on the fact that you're saying that helped as a commodity I stuck on this active saying.
That health is -- right so the notion health.
-- -- -- There is nothing in this legislation that gives anybody our right to any particular health care not to know that's true it's the government's gonna bring it to you does not give your right to our cat scan to heart surgery.
It doesn't even give your right to wait in line if you're the 100 person when he for -- cat -- I mean have a right to the 100 -- In Massachusetts.
Where that which is a model for the federal legislation more people are going to emergency rooms now than ever before cost and cabdriver told -- and eventually handing out on a list of twenty doctors before she can find one who would see her.
And I said -- the al-Qaeda -- she said no this just leave this was the list of government gave me all -- -- -- we're just moving money around people are not getting more care.
Actually I disagree with -- hit the fact that I'm sorry yeah nice southern gentleman and I still ahead here welcome I do feel like that and and in no disrespect you're a numbers person I -- every day docked and the fact of the matter is in Massachusetts actually 98% of Massachusetts is actually country.
The bottom line about it is is that this is allowing us to expand care.
Think people it is closing that gap fifty million people uninsured.
The Affordable Care Act is giving us 32 more million people to be able to get some quality insurance.
-- and the majority of America's on her side you know I'm looking at these poll numbers 72% of Americans support subsidies for the poor to buy health insurance.
I support our regional government policy to help poor people without wearing the green and I need to -- private insurance not going to rash usually but I don't think it's just about -- people this is about every day people this is not about associate art but let me go -- this list from the poll sixty.
It's all in your side he should let me about -- that's -- 63%.
But just because most people agree with you doesn't mean you're right yeah.
-- yeah sixty.
-- support from.
The government setting minimum standards for health care plan.
These are minimum standards of federal -- -- tell you exactly what kind of health insurance you have to have we're gonna get it what you're gonna pay for it you're gonna have very few choices.
Frankly to be honest with you I don't think insurance company should be in the game personally because this is not help is not a corporation he -- -- -- like Canada has gone.
I think single pair if you actually look at the evidence that says -- government health social responsibility everybody pitches and so the bottom line is is that.
He everybody pitches in that sounds from.
Yes whatever it is -- doesn't get the same care as a matter of fact uninsured.
People in the United States get as much or more preventive care more mammograms pastors and so forth.
The uninsured people in Canada think about that no that's actually not there is actually -- -- hey.
A lot of controversy over there wasn't houses -- -- evident next point here has sound and that -- got 61%.
Of Americans support banning discrimination.
For preexisting conditions.
Discriminating for discrimination.
-- I'm for people being able to ensure against preexisting conditions that's what you do with life insurance -- -- life insurance you get cancer you die if you get to your family gets the money.
I'm not for allowing people as this they'll want to have to wait until they get sick and then you buy the insurance get your care and drop the insurance again and that's not about.
Why you are insisting why should I apply any insurance till I get sick so the fact of the matter is that's the whole idea is to actually refocus on preventative care.
So let's talk about preexisting conditions very clearly here.
So what are trees in to existing conditions is -- companies were allowed to say you have an allergy your pre existing condition.
I got hit by a car I'm a preexisting condition to me -- doesn't seem -- You know it's illegal and practically every state.
For your employer to fire insurance for you that you -- why do we change that law we -- 90% of all these problems you guys we'll have more chance to answer the audience questions later the thank you illumination Sharma.
And acts how government health care turns us into dogs -- end.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- We'll still be stuck with lots of government health care in America.
Medicare -- Medicaid already pay 35% of America's health care -- on top of that.
Government screwy tax rules encourage most of us to get health insurance through our employer.
-- -- so used to that we expect someone else to pay for most of our health care.
What's the result one surgeon doctor Jeffrey singer says it's changing the ethics of doctors from the hippocratic oath.
To a veterinarian.
Veterinary mindset what do you me.
Well as as you know when you take your pet to the veterinarian.
Tells you what's wrong with the patent.
And then gives you -- set of options says the owner.
And schools -- whatever you decide anything from expensive.
Sergio therapy to possibly euthanasia.
Depending what I wanna pay for what I wanted exactly but my profession medicine has had practice what's called we called -- hippocratic ethic.
Which says that my number one obligation.
-- to my patient I'm not concerned about the -- can be the issues facing the person's paying the bill I'm not concerned about anybody else.
And I'm only gonna give my patient.
The best advice I can as I see it -- so what's the problem well what's been happening is that for several years now going back at least ten years.
Doctors have been pressured.
By the number one -- in this -- she reaches Medicare through this agency CMS.
Increasingly according to guidelines and protocols.
That a designed by panels that that Medicare puts together.
So this is a problem long before Obama care -- -- already -- government is on more and more.
Yeah in fact -- was once asked.
My group two to explain how obamacare is gonna it damage the patient doctor relationship and he's good group of primarily seniors.
And I said -- and I hate to disappoint you.
Because I know you want needed.
Best on obamacare but actually listen -- going on much longer -- started.
Through Medicare over the past.
Seminary years they've been putting together panels.
That -- that the following question if I have three -- in ten million people.
And I have X amount of dollars what's the most cost effective way of allocating those resources so you could.
You -- these death panel it's this was that term thrown out during the obamacare debate like to be this group who would decide who'll live and die.
It's not exactly like that but already when there is -- a limited supply there will be rationing some people won't get the stuff that might keep them alive when somebody else pay.
It's right and when Obama -- takes effect then there will be death panel because obamacare establishes a thing called the independent payment advisory board or iPad.
Which effective in 2014.
Will basically determine what care will be given and what won't -- they're not gonna say you're gonna die they would just say.
You're too old you don't get.
-- a new -- exactly.
But that the point is that they're controlling the did the allocation of the resource so what's the alternative.
The alternative is for people to be -- more control of their own health care spending.
-- -- that I get to be my own death panel I get to decide what I expand on what treatment that's what you do every day when you go to buy food -- you decide whether or not you want to.
-- kind of house you wanna live in or buy clothing you always make decisions every day -- going to cost effective allocation of your resources.
But if you're using someone -- resources and it's only natural that that other person is gonna wanna make the call.
And you're a surgeon you see this with your patients that the Medicare patient the family they want a 100% of all treatment and it's free so old they say give it to.
Well and that's only natural.
Now it's not I I don't -- -- say everybody but many times I'm I'm surgeon I'm dealing with critically ill patients in intensive care unit some of whom.
I have hopeless situations are very difficult decision to me to pull the plug on your mom or dad so since -- really not involved in any lead.
And you cost of this thing it's easy for some people say don't do everything do everything in this way the avoid having to make a difficult decision of course.
They're not paying for so it's it's easier to do that.
Real life is about trade -- but insurance and Medicare and Obama care.
Isolate people from making their own decisions about what tradeoffs we work.
That's that's -- exactly correct because -- obamacare.
We're gonna have more of the situation we're at the individual is paying.
Less and less directly for their own health care costs so you have people like that the -- I want it free from the government what's gonna happen and what is happening is all of my peers are gradually being.
Quote forced pressured to practice according to protocols and guidelines that have the interest of the -- put first when your doctor gives you advice.
You're not going to be able to -- confident that your doctors giving you advice based upon.
What he or she is.
-- it considers the best advice for you but your doctor might just be following orders what I'm worried about as what's happening to my profession are -- becoming a profession.
That practice is a veterinary I think rather than and hippocratic -- Thank you doctor Jeffrey singer.
Coming up we hear from some of the people have to pay him the employers take on obamacare.
And also praise for discrimination.
One big reason politicians said we need obamacare.
Was to rein in health care costs.
They are up 400%.
Over the last thirty years more than double the rate of inflation.
But my next guest says the data misleads we measure the wrong things.
-- fast that's -- and investment front from one billion dollars to fifty billion so he's pretty good with numbers so.
How can you say the cost of health care hasn't -- the amount we spend.
On health care has gone way up.
But the cost to something is the cost of the same thing through time what would you spend for 1950s health care right now.
And how much you think you have to pay for it I don't think you spend very much and now I don't know where in the world it's available but if it were I don't think it would cost that much because we wouldn't want it it's not as good times and how much would you -- -- spend for medieval barber to -- you.
What's happened is the quality of health -- the medical techniques the new drugs the new procedures have gone way up.
That's stated and this is real important that's a good thing not a bad thing the example I like to use is imagine.
Some company comes along and invents.
A cure for cancer.
Cost double all the other -- cancer treatment after adjusting for every affect cost doubles.
We're gonna spend more on health care.
Is -- someone who's gonna argue that's a bad thing this is the wrong way to frame the problem doesn't obamacare do some good things it gives more people insurance.
Maybe that makes it -- people did go have gone bankrupt paying for health care.
-- let's let's start with that the coverage issue there are a lot of things and hope we get to talk about it that are that are.
Health care system which maybe it is in a free market health care system but it's -- -- that much of the world does not go ahead and -- a free market health -- to.
It's a ready extremely -- traded by the government when it comes to regulation when it comes to Medicare Medicaid.
To all government pays half the bills it is an attack makes insurance companies pay most of the right exactly -- -- I -- just say it now even with that the fact that our system is.
Is half -- -- which we do things a lot better than systems that that that are completely not -- we.
Are the place in the world that if you have something that is very bad you come.
When it comes to treating anything difficult -- the place to go where do we have problems we have problems on cost.
And we have a brawl with coverage there are people in this country who don't get covered the two biggest examples in the two biggest reasons are the very pork.
And people with the now famous preexisting conditions that make it prohibitive for them there so we need obamacare.
Missile -- -- but no we don't bomb.
We need to have a national debate on how much we want to help these people and that's a fair debate to have but Obama care -- What obamacare says.
Is let's not debate how much we should spend on helping people -- obamacare says is we're gonna take people -- pre existing conditions and we're gonna force insurance companies.
To provide them the coverage and then we're gonna do is well that go bankrupt if we do that.
We get -- fort literally force -- course everyone else in the country to buy that insurance company's product.
That is a crazy way efficiency wise to cover people and it's at this artist's way what it's a way of saying we're not gonna raise your taxes we're gonna make those evil insurance companies do what they -- -- -- -- the first -- you got it exactly right and I hope that was sarcastic.
Because it is raising your taxes.
-- a lot of times regulation and law is a sneaky way to grow government doing.
Raising taxes to spend more money is what everyone means by growing government but raising the cost -- something insurance companies.
Will not pay this we will all pay this we will all pay this through higher bills.
So it's just a deceitful way to hide a taxing creates a deceitful way to hide a tax increase this an -- way to argue for it they've our neighbors -- -- companies is that trick.
It's it's it's a complete track.
There's really only one economic purpose to an insurance company.
It's not doing the paperwork.
It's assessing risk.
An insurance company that -- is it exists to say well John is tram and in good shape in and cliff could lose thirty pounds I should pay mom imposing more cost -- insurance covered what's we've removed that function.
What's weird is that even if they repeal Obama -- -- mandate.
Part of it that Republicans want to keep the Bill O'Reilly wants to keep his.
Don't discriminate against people with preexisting conditions get Republicans are wrong.
On the Republican is that discrimination is a good part of -- Republicans have a bit of a disease they -- the thing that sounds the nicest they'll make you sound really mean if you're against.
And they go all right we love that one.
They're just wrong they're -- might explain why they're wrong they're wrong sound -- -- really dating again well people with preexisting conditions.
Some of them did nothing wrong but the most did nothing wrong.
I'm good at most they would preexisting conditions did nothing wrong -- I hope I personally would like to help those people.
When we have a debate about this who knows where it's gonna come out if we have an honest debate about how much to help these people.
-- -- country could decide to help them a lot.
The way obamacare does it by making insurance -- pretend it doesn't exist.
Does two things it hides the -- there's many things that hides the cost but mostly it takes away the only thing an insurance company does for the world.
Which is tell me that John should pay less than cliff if we should -- both afford it that's an insurance companies economic function go back to the go back to fire insurance.
You have one house that's that's rickety old timbers.
With with oil rigs in the -- in the -- oil soaked rags in the -- you have another built up to every modern code.
Nobody in their right mind on -- including a progressive would say they should pay the same amount in insurance.
Now in pre existing conditions it's a said a case it's not these people's fault.
But these challenging -- some people are obese some people smoke.
-- -- is that that -- didn't you look at me know.
I'm I'm just doing yeah the 888 the moral argument gets a gets gets gets murkier when it's it's someone's -- -- as the case that we had all the -- company for rewarding them.
Person who exercise absolutely there's no reward to it.
Com and an economically charging everyone the same let's go back to another thing that's popular and obamacare and some Republican support.
Keeping kids on their parents insurance -- they're 26 instead of 21.
Everybody likes that in a in a free market.
There should be two policies.
One till you're 26 and one -- -- -- want.
She's someone tell -- -- what people want to hear 21 if we decide again we desperately need to be charitable to some people.
We should it be it but we should beat in the sunlight.
We should be it honestly this is forcing all the cost to everyone everyone has to pay -- -- six even those who don't need it.
To help the -- want it and then that cost is hated that cost is big government -- -- tax and spend big government being run through obamacare is regulation.
But the illusion is that.
If we foresee -- -- cover it until the kid is 26 we force you to cover the preexisting conditions.
It's free and it's a good thing government gives you wealthy this'll this'll Shockey John but nothing's for it.
Everything in the world is paid for by by somebody most of it is paid for by the middle class in America.
Politicians like to stand up and be nice wonderful saints with other people's money.
-- -- -- -- Thank you cliff -- that's more -- Obama care when we come back.
Wonderful people more of seven obamacare than most are small business owners the chamber of commerce survey found 72%.
Obamacare makes it much -- For my business to hire more employees.
That's creeping so hot because we were small businesses to hire more people small businesses are America's biggest job creators.
Carrier partners with our National Federation of Independent Businesses in -- five BN.
Joseph all leave all employs 48 people in his printing business in New Jersey so -- you -- because of Obama care.
You won't hire more people why not.
But I'm gonna do although I can avoid doing your cause that the cost of the -- -- the unknown cost are so.
Potentially cost prohibitive for from a small business owners when you when I take a loan.
And expand my business Michael my -- personal assets on the line I can't afford to be wrong.
And one point did people miss is that you have 48 employees.
If you have fifty.
The rules change then you -- change significantly.
I I can get find if I don't.
Give -- -- for my employees.
I think you find -- -- Don't give the right type of the shorts my employees.
I can get find the fight in short my employees but one of them is at a standard poverty line that I'm not even sure what -- -- and -- still get fine so with it it's such an unknown.
I don't know what the colts are going today.
Now the -- I would think when these are the rules there must be at what are your from your members a lot of businesses might have 4849.
People will say I don't wanna grow.
Right that's exactly right the health -- -- really is adding to the uncertainty that we're seeing in this economy today because people don't know how much it's gonna cost and then to have health insurance.
Much -- carry it for their employees or their business and so yes it is causing our members to stay for the most part on the sidelines.
The rules would sound good to people cover everybody -- age 26 cover people with preexisting conditions.
People like that but it means some companies and gotten out of the business WellPoint Humana Cigna got out of -- child only business.
Principal financial stopped offering.
Health insurance altogether we have fewer choices and you when you say cover -- -- he get fewer choices.
That's exactly right in your going to ultimately get more expensive choices -- -- it's not just about having health insurance as Joseph alluded to it's what kind you have.
You have to have all of these.
Every uncovered this and then my -- how terrorist assets is an abuse treatment not everybody's going to ever need that some people are gonna decide not to have children -- -- policy will always have to have pediatric service.
And there is something that you have to Perry for each of those.
Mean it's a few well that are in in the walk.
And mandates confuses people as we talk about the obamacare mandate which means you have to buy -- but even before that there were mandates and every State's.
Third chiropractors lobby the legislate -- and do it in New York you have to offer chiropractic treatment.
And contraceptives and infertility but the result is in New York they're 46 mandates.
The average -- cost 4000 dollars in Alabama rather just nine mandates it cost 16100 down.
So all I went you moved to Alabama -- businesses in New Jersey where one of the heaviest amusement heaviest -- -- -- states in the nation.
In the obamacare goes one up on the man -- we've been having and that's -- my concern is we've had a high deductible plan we offered to our employees.
That allows them to keep premiums low and be responsible for the first.
Dollar of their care so that did a -- senior health and police have more rational choices because of that in this is going to do away with this -- -- and and clarified that by having high deductible.
They make more rational choices why.
Because they're responsible for the first X amount of dollars so -- -- rushing off to a doctor.
We'll think about it or it'll take better care of themselves and I've seen in the past six years where employees have made better lifestyle choices because it it behooves them to do so.
-- if you buy insurance from a company in another state can't do that.
Unfortunately -- so what why is this except that I can -- wind from another state to work computers.
Right and I understand they can also by life insurance from another say this is something that and it idea's been advocating for it's a common sense solution that would.
Immediately we think start driving down costs and at the end of the day the reason that so many people don't have health insurance.
Is because they can't afford it and what we really needed in need are reforms that will drive down the cost of insurance that will allow more people to be covered by -- And -- last point with you when you know -- 48 employees.
Obamacare kicks in at fifty employees but there's all this other.
They're all these other laws that kick -- -- twenty employees 2550.
And a hundred employees you can't close a plant without.
Two months' notice.
You have your fellow businessmen saying let's stay small saying why -- I think that's what you're saying and I I know we've done it ourselves until almost fully implemented.
Because we don't know the cost four were scaling back and you have twenty million small business is out there you do the math if even only 25% of them are -- them.
Well -- one employee.
That's five million employees that are being hired.
Thank you Karen hard -- and -- a live video coming up you're questions for our guests.
We'll let you know we.
Your questions for our guests doctor many should -- with doctors for America only support Obama care.
John Goodman of the National Center for Policy Analysis just came up with a book priceless.
And Karen heard from the National Federation of Independent Business so.
First from FaceBook from my FaceBook page -- -- asks why is buying catastrophic care only why is that illegal.
And why can't you buy it out of state.
While these are ridiculous regulations all -- coming from Washington.
And basically when people can manage their own health care dollars don't go to places like men and clinic can now get to inexpensive high quality care for -- -- no no no -- why what what's what's illegal is having them pay for care it has to be free which means I'm go to the more expensive place -- waste their money in their waste your money there waste.
All of our -- yes it.
Why is it.
Yes our employers even involved in the whole industry altogether and why can't they get out of in his let us have our own controlled health insurance here.
Well I think this was a policy that was sat back -- as I understand during you know.
Thirties and forties -- and that.
It's -- -- employers were just some set of eyes I think from raising salaries so instead they.
Increased benefits but that is -- price controls than -- was illegal -- raise salaries and they said let's give them health insurance.
Right and what we would like to see actually is what you're -- leading to which -- Everyone have pretax dollars so they can that as you know it's -- how truly portable coverage take out with them.
And that employers can pay your salary could not exactly how much but -- making and make your own choices without money.
Instead of being told that that X amount has to go into health insurance that you may not -- I think you're right that we should have -- -- in the -- -- knowing what our health care costs costs are an accident and to the other gentleman's question on -- but let's just be clear.
That catastrophic care is not preventative care.
Number why do you have to buy what you don't want about what if you want to pay for your own preventative the whole notion of being able to refocus our health care every day Americans with every day health care should be about.
Let's hear from the doctors allies in the doctors for America group.
So your opponents are doctors against American military -- and then -- went yes yes doctor high on the.
Primary care doctor and I like doctor -- I didn't -- be more transparent I think doctors and patients should be more aware of prisons.
I am concerned using the power market to give people a disincentive.
To get primary care early a lot of people only received the money for something else.
Not that enables -- -- to prevent this -- -- because they don't want to pay for.
While we found that when patients are managing their own money they do get preventive care and we've also found in the Medicaid program that disabled -- people can manage her own dollars I can do it quite well they're gonna manage her own care while -- -- manage the money that pays for that care.
-- -- I'm hi I'm doctor in New York and I'd like to know -- Come Obama care you know here don't -- around the country everyone knows that.
The health care system in America is broken and has been broken for decades and.
I'd like to know when the health of Americans.
Is not going to be at the mercy of political -- -- Politicians.
And no way say eight -- make two points there you're asking it to be at the mercy of -- political system because you support Obama.
See Affordable Care Act or what do we call bills that everybody will be happy act.
The but it's a good question in this sense.
We didn't get what Barack Obama's anyone to give us which was universal coverage -- no mandates what we got is this program put together -- special interest.
And that's why it's such a Rube Goldberg contraption that really nobody can understand or explain because a special interest legislation.
-- -- -- -- A position in Europe also I was wondering if each -- you -- -- do you know much about the VA health system.
Well yes -- -- VA has.
-- system is a system run by the government does certain things pretty well.
Especially things sitting grades itself on why has that electronic medical records.
But it does other things very poorly and that's why you keep seeing all those newspaper articles about all those events that have psychological problems I can't find doctors who will -- them.
So it's it's bureaucratic it's inefficient it's wasteful it's not market based health care.
This isn't doesn't need any because there's not enough psychiatrists out there the fact of the matter is the -- actually an assistant health care system.
And it covers a very hard working military men and women so the fact of the matter is that DS we could out of VA health system for all of America I think that would be something that everybody would want pitch into the.
If we okay on that -- we're out.
Thank you know doctor Sharma John Goodman -- reported coming up.
I'll solve America's health care problems.
So and probably Monday the supremes will announce their decision.
The betting is that they will declare the mandate the requirement did you have to buy health insurance -- constitution.
On the futures market -- trade dot com this week's odds are eighty cents to twenty sense that the mandate will be over turner.
And in trade is the most -- -- predictor I think but.
I want the whole -- thrown out this is an assault on our money and are freed up.
Because of its micro management alone and it's.
2400 pages of complications.
-- colosio was right when she said obamacare will be very exciting.
That we have to -- the bill says that you can find out what is -- it.
Perhaps but even now more than two years after this thing passed we still don't know what it means.
Says -- -- that bureaucrats will write new rules as they go along.
The worst part of obamacare is the part that's most popular.
When this likely to survive even if the supremes reject the mandate it's the part that requires insurance companies to stop discriminating.
Forces them to cover everyone including those with preexisting conditions.
That sounds fair no one likes discrimination.
Is what makes insurance work.
-- it is like telling car insurance companies they must cover Lindsay Lohan at the same price they cover you.
Car insurance works because they can reward good drivers and charge the Lindsay Lohan is more.
Forcing insurance companies to stop discriminating.
Kills the business model.
Forced insurance isn't insurance it's welfare.
If Obama's plan is to create another government welfare program he -- to just say that.
But the promoters of big government don't own up to anything listening to them obamacare is simply.
Free health -- you know when your health insurance you have now -- -- would be free stuff.
So far they spent eighteen million dollars of your tax money on these ads telling us that they're giving us free stuff.
Move today Ramos your doctor Lou steadily at a screening.
Little and a little -- -- -- and use your benefits today learn more healthier America.
You lose your benefits today it's like they're pushers.
What will -- pushing due to costs making preventive care seem free doesn't mean it is free those -- must be paid for by someone.
When tax payers or insurance companies pay the costs is just didn't.
Imagine if we bought -- that way.
Funded by grocery insurance -- go to the market by filling in your own for 28 bucks a patent.
Why buy cheaper -- someone else pays most of that I might as well get the most expensive.
And that's what we've got with health care obamacare.
Would make that worse.
The solution is to face facts and say.
We need a market and that means we need to pay more of our own health care costs ourselves.
It does happen in America in rush -- Illinois people -- up to see doctor Russell donor because he takes cash just five bucks a visit.
He says that's all he needs.
Okay he's an extreme case but other doctors are starting to work for cash.
-- my insurance for the big deal like a heart attack but the patient controls the payments for routine care.
This cuts costs a lot by as much as 50% according to simple care a network of fee for service doctors.
And look at the tiny pockets of American medicine where insurance not pay.
Like laser eye surgery and plastic surgery what happens there.
The result -- risen and the cost of plastic surgeries dropped about 20% over the past twenty years.
Wouldn't -- -- if there were true for all of health care.
It could be but only if we look to the free market not government of course that means consumers will have to spend more of their own money.
Good luck finding a politician willing to say next.
But that is the Madison we need.
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