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Our next guest says -- employ Italy Perkins a volunteer with an LG BT organization for six months is clearly responsible.
Shooting -- building manager at the Washington DC headquarters.
Of the -- -- research council.
But it is the Southern Poverty Law Center that Tony Perkins.
Says -- -- labeled the family research council I hate were.
Creating a hostile environment joining us now on the phone.
Tony Perkins president of family research council charter personal wanna -- if -- may.
-- you thanks for being here our apologies for our inability of a satellite up.
As we had hoped and my apologies to the audience but there were delighted that you.
Have joined us by phone.
How are you feeling after going through everything you have over the last couple days.
Well Lou it's it's been a challenging week for our team.
But one let me express my appreciation for the outpouring of support and encouragement that's been flowing -- depth Farsi on behalf of Leo Johnson to was the man who.
Disarmed the intruder in the -- would shot in the process and took him down -- recovering I was a hospital -- -- when he came out of surgery talked him -- yesterday in effect he's being.
Discharge.
Here shortly and now we're looking forward to having a -- the hero back at the office could take off -- demand.
But to he's he's going to be okay but let me just says because there's a little bit of misconception.
That.
This was an arms -- security guard that we had -- actually.
That that's a secondary duty is security is -- buildings operations managers not and that's uniform not armed.
He was unarmed and he confronted this intruder who.
Point pointed at -- point blank range to shoot him.
He was able to disarm him he was shot in the process and was able to disarm and -- subdue him with just the use of one -- it was amazing back.
Going when you say here there is there is no hyperbole.
This is a man standing -- against all of them nine millimeter semi automatic pistol.
Defending.
If everyone in that building.
And deserves all the credit in the world Overture had given him well let me.
Let me ask you about this because much has been made of your saying point blank.
That you would blame the southern Harvard also which is a left wing advocacy.
Organization.
The goes about naming people.
Is -- organizations as hate groups.
In they singled out you because -- organization.
A conservative evangelical.
Organization that supports traditional marriage and is against gay marriage for that they label due a I think -- is that correct.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- He's on the pulled the trigger he's responsible for that -- as -- said yesterday at a press conference in front of our Washington headquarters -- the Southern Poverty Law Center is responsible for fostering the environment.
That'll lead to win -- shooting by recklessly labeling.
Pro family and Christian groups like cars that -- their agenda as hate groups and that type of rhetoric that has PLC isn't.
-- in is wrong and as we witnessed this week it's dangerous and it needs to stop.
And today.
Here at some point the I suppose.
Federal authorities.
-- will be determining whether or not this is -- hate crime.
It is you know I think I understand in part but I remember quite assimilated intellectually the reasons for calling.
A murder on attempted murder I hate crime.
It is heinous no matter -- The violence in and of itself.
I don't think that it raises by one -- -- The despair of families who were victims.
Victimized -- -- in any way change.
You know the pain of losing a loved one in in violence.
I it's sort of -- -- sort of process.
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-- I believe it than what we're watching.
Employee is someone who's caught up in the environment that is a contest between the left and the right.
A conservatism.
And liberalism and to deny what the southern poverty -- -- as -- it left wing.
Activist organization by any other name it is still primarily about.
And the family research council you have different views in within this you know obviously troubled person steps and it's it's a tough environment.
In the contribution.
When something I hate group.
And organizations and groups such as -- Is to me about as -- as it gets Tony Perkins we are good.
-- -- good friends and I'm delighted that you're okay I'm delighted that everyone there is I and to mr.
Johnson we extend our our thanks for.
For being a -- -- an example for the whole country started to thank you sir.
Thank you governor --