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Former FBI Agent Brad Garrett on the mass shooting in Wisconsin and whether new gun-control laws would have impacted the situation.
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Got -- but was in the army six years.
Apparently been actively involved in the white supremacists.
Sort of neo Nazi skinhead groups for a lot of years and apparently.
Has had a white supremacist.
Rock band.
A number of them -- over the years.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Boston one I don't know -- that I you don't find and I guess if you listen to -- I don't know I'd call either one of them.
Good but there yes he does not.
And there its coming and I would thank him -- -- a skit about system.
-- claim to hate your plumbing and I'm not naive understand that happens -- but it didn't do these things this is Sikhs were poor liked.
-- Muslim terrorists assess the Diller did -- just wondering no war.
Well we don't really know but I think.
Donna if you look at it from the this -- these -- most white supremacists believe that anyone that's not.
Why didn't particular.
Western European descent it shouldn't be here -- -- clearly shouldn't be in charge.
And so there have been attacks.
-- Over the years particularly since 9/11 mistakenly believe -- they were Muslims.
In this case I don't know I mean I'm I'm sure he would define seeks is not hitting his definition of white.
So.
I guess they -- they can sort that out hopefully in -- serious personal.
Sex W -- -- mr.
and then -- influential.
It may not happen because they didn't get that narrow definition and -- right.
So is no way on disclosure documents and expect them.
There's no way to really monitor -- your -- FBI doesn't lower unusable -- -- organizations.
To monitor bring not probably -- rock -- or whatever.
Well that's right do they keep track of people who may be -- line signature I think they do depending on the individual.
But you -- exactly right you can say.
Anything bad that hateful that you war but it's when you take action that it becomes unlawful.
And so it's a big problem because obviously the vast majority of the people who are like minded -- -- to mr.
page they don't act on it.
But but -- -- saw someone doesn't clearly he did.
A wonder I mean she's not a very good question from these Karadzic.
Told -- artists -- consultant producer and -- -- -- a situation a Wisconsin.
I'm just wondering what they.
What what they think -- we're gonna accomplished.
A man you're gonna -- people but.
Which is obviously significant if they kill one person in this case it was a -- killed another wounded but I remain.
That's certainly not -- -- they must be clinically insane rant.
Well.
That endo with what is the book or what they believe is that that -- that bit.
Inaction has gotten them nowhere and by taking action it's much the same thinking on as a terrorist past.
Because the -- of their actions are -- logical.
At the end of the day and they don't have to accomplish what they really want to accomplish.
But they reach a point in their -- -- they can't they can't believe.
That we can't move forward and they can't sort of meet their goals and their Goldstein who or whatever the philosophy is in this case.
And the white supremacy.
And so.
It and they always have major life events and I'm not sure went on in.
Mr.
page's -- I think you've recently broke up with the girlfriend.
He lost his job.
So it did those -- Combined with his hatred so fuel that he felt like.
The only way I can empower myself the only way -- -- sort of take charge in what I believe in.
It's -- take action.
And I think seven version of that is probably -- them.
-- lighter -- Troy you're doing you're doing -- being assassinated doctor questions the coast I'm trying to imply a rational analysis.
So there's action there's yeah torment demands have done their roles on a -- still -- -- -- while remaining a knock on America like fish store kills naval.
Well.
And again -- go to those that don't underestimate the whole power control thing these that power obviously is is taking someone's life.
And clearly -- that.
Loses it's.
-- -- -- -- nine millimeter.
No indication they had on body armor unlikely.
-- -- -- issue here.
And you know I assume what would've killed a number of the people at the police had to intervene when they did.
-- what's gonna happen and -- Rural Colorado at a little a lot of time.
Well I act eight US -- gas I would believe that he.
Would -- be found same Visteon trial but we'll see from a legal standpoint I'm not suggesting he's at a stable kid.
He he his -- -- so premeditated and methodical that it's really hard to argue that he's just crazy crazy.
And I'm not sure they'll get very far that in fact they take that tactic.
Plus sixty Miller cardinal proud to -- management born -- reassure work for ABC news shows.
I'm actually consultant for them so let me it would -- it happens economy.
Now we have this -- -- Tucson -- trying to determine.
-- -- -- -- -- It is you know if he does -- probably.
The definition of legally insane what -- that -- little I know that mr.
Loughner sizes sell off the charts so delusional and paranoid.
That he probably thought he was killing somebody else other than attempted to kill them Gabby Giffords and other people.
-- and gun control.
Well.
-- you know one of the biggest problems of gun control is that.
-- particularly if you apply it to that this topic we're.
Talking about this morning.
Mass shooters.
It doesn't do I don't think would do much good because they plan -- -- range.
They buy guns that he comes weeks months in advance they planned to target explain -- they're gonna -- it.
So -- least restrict their ability guess the figure out some illegal way to get them.
-- gun control probably that it if it helps anything would probably reduce the number of.
Homicides in the US is because arms are so available this and the number of people you know 30000.
People are killed a year.
With firearms that are homicides 400000 are injured.
-- -- shoot each other by accident.
Which is really -- lack of training more respite.
I don't know why I'm in an attorney general London metal bunch but -- -- I don't own an assault weapons Charlotte Nelson I.
But never understood why anybody -- opposed.
Requiring a license in a paper.
People who have guns -- -- -- position -- the bodies of go to his gun shows just violent donated to the commissioner thing.
Borrow or these assault weapons amount of normal would be a closer look -- assortment of -- -- -- -- more to a little Miami sentenced Bernard.
Think it -- it will will be blocked sort of.
Book irrational logic when it comes to this and it's such as social topic and it it takes on a lot of -- -- that I'm not sure has any reality -- mean.
See it to require people if they wanna carry a firearm to qualify what that.
To have a document that -- a picture -- their qualified issue with -- acts.
At -- note first of all it's gonna teach gun safety -- it'll reduce those numbers I just told you about people accidentally shooting themselves that are.
Someone else.
Just I'm with you on that I don't understand -- -- register your car.
And so but that but.
You believe me it's not a subject you can rationally in disgust with a number of people yeah.
