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UFCW Local 1500 Director Pat Purcell argues unions will help airport security and improve working conditions for TSA agents.
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Fair and balanced pat Purcell he's a terrific guy his what the local 15100.
United food and commercial workers union he says the TSA immunization.
Is the best thing for national security -- up because you're reasonable person I've seen -- thank you and and are Smart and what do you what do you make this thing you think -- what do you think this is a good thing for security.
Look look look a couple things that I just -- and I think we'll need to comment get back to reasonable ground here this is very limited scope partnering.
No issue regarding security was even allowed to be negotiating in this.
You know you're dealing with issues such as that they negotiated dealt with -- -- that with its scheduling this was very limited scope.
As for security issues look in -- city police officers are unionized.
Firemen -- unionized the fact of the matter is as people in charge security are always going to put security first.
Nobody is ever gonna say I have to put my.
My big union contract first they're always gonna -- that I character thing go ahead mr.
point -- that basically get I think this is very limited scope bargaining I don't see any having major effect.
There is due process now and a lot of employees thought that there wasn't due process before.
In the in the -- procedure -- I think that's a good thing.
-- I think in let me just let me just bring this up because this is important when you say that the security issues.
Effect -- security won't be in the collective bargaining.
The issue with disciplinary standards will not be subject to collective bargaining but disciplinary actions will be in other words -- -- its sleeping on the job.
You know he can't get fired.
Also issues about security should and Susan -- ships.
-- a -- got a green horn -- working the midnight shift.
When you need -- reeled senior person.
You know on the stick there and instead you know the senior guy says look wherein a union.
And you know what I I get to go home and that's when the bad guys not let the terrorists of the drug you know runners could come in and say look we see the working in the midnight shift because of the union rules and we're gonna break we're gonna try to comment and harm Americans what do you make about.
I think these two things look at first of all no person who's in the labor movement ever wants to protect any workers that's not doing their job.
That's not what we're therefore we're not there to put the person back -- -- job to create a security risk where there to make sure that they get fair representation and then the facts are gonna.
-- -- here's a deal customs Border Patrol which is unionize and customs Border Patrol.
Is at war with the union the NT EU has been at work because of Daiwa's sleeping on the job.
I mean that's seditious thing you know these the unions will stick up for their workers even -- this to the detriment getting -- sort of -- -- -- around their their whole blood group there.
But what will stick up -- making sure people have due process.
That's important people who -- represented by unions.
Don't lose jobs if we don't go around protecting everyone and say there's no one getting fired people do lose jobs when they go through a fair grievance procedure I think that's what they're talking about here.
A fair grievance procedure a third party neutral person being -- to look at something and say I think that's terminal or.
I don't think I think you know again the union for the custom Border Patrol again this is the security operation.
They fought over scheduling to of workers I mean it can get you know we -- -- and other words of TSA again it launched as a nonunion.
Operation now its unionized now this collective bargaining now millions of dollars in dues -- this is an eight billion dollar budget for the TSA.
I mean I think the folks up there are gonna say hey wait a second -- being put.
You know the grandma being searched and having her tweezers seized and they're -- double unreasonable behavior.
And they say what you know why would bother flying anymore there's no upside to it if the airports are letting union workers and new England and the union -- of -- Now misbehave.
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Better working conditions maybe you'll get workers that won't necessarily have some of the -- at some of the other work Canada privatize its airport.
Security don't think again private you know additional provocation reminds -- of what I think it was the astronaut who said you know what worries me is I'm going to the moon in a -- that's been a built by the lowest bidder.
Right that to a one of the things that concerns me about privatization privatization and bidding you know we have to have a -- as always -- and he -- The flip side that is that where there are you working with the union official who wants into the Lois and I work -- asleep on the job and taking my word that -- I -- I think that's a very unfair characterization.
The political family -- People who ran into our trade senators were unionized police officers -- unionized firemen who first responders.
Those people don't sleep -- job most union people are out there to do the right thing and I think that's with he's got -- Fireman and I fan Lam love that you brought him -- really appreciate you coming on the show pat.
Thanks -- thinking time really.
