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A new York state supreme court judge blocking a turnaround plan.
That -- close 24 of New York city's worst performing public schools.
And firing ineffective teachers now those schools -- reopened in the fall with new missions curriculum -- -- and administrators but.
Teacher he -- of course prevented that from ever happening.
Eva Moskowitz is founder and CEO of success academy charter schools and author of the new book mission possible.
How the secrets of the success academies can work in any school in the thanks for coming on today really -- -- So why can't this city closing schools isn't that if their decision after all -- their open.
Well it should be but unfortunately that power of the unions in the special -- -- is so great.
That even in there who decades of educational failure.
This city can't turn those schools around him were losing federal money as a result and most importantly.
The kids are suffering because they're trapped in -- failure factories.
And -- how -- the teachers unions blocking us.
Well I and then they tend to control the arbitration process and so when things go to arbitration generally the city loses.
All right well you know it's a problem we see play out over and over again is teachers unions really you know hurting educational standards in this country.
You have a very different experience.
With success academies tell us about this new book -- what you've learned your career that you think public schools should do.
Well of course charter schools are public schools but but I believe.
That there's a lot that can be done even with all the political obstacles there are many things that can be done one of that prime reasons for re writing the book is really just spread his best practices but one of the most fundamental changes we can make.
Is simply upping the intellectual anti.
We need believe profoundly that American Public Education has under estimated the intellectual capacity of children -- the mother of three.
Their short but they are not steep and it kind -- treating them as -- We will get what.
The X -- angry that they're capable of a lot.
You know what are the interesting things he say -- principles are not building supervisors and that's the way they work and that's a way to get treated now tell me what you mean well -- -- the carriage.
Acres of their building.
Most principals in America has been 94%.
Of their time not on instruction.
In our schools principal spend 94% of their time.
Looking at teaching.
And improving the quality of instruction.
How do you get these kids -- to focus on education did to embrace education don't wanna come to school.
Well we run a very tight ship and and maybe that's old fashion -- -- but we believe that.
Many parents most parents want their kids to learn -- are very frustrated that there's so much chaos and disorder in the schools that you don't have the foundation upon which you can build.
And rigorous instruction and so our lunch rooms don't look like a typical district lunchroom where there's -- -- Our lunch rooms look a little more like a restaurant.
That's what you're saying better food may be -- on up.
I want to talk a little bit about another topic the consumer financial.
Protection book board recently came out -- student loans are holding back the economic recovery as you know.
Kids have so much money in college student loans a 150 billion of private loans.
As student debt has spiked dramatically what can impact is is having what is the solution to this problem.
Well we have to find more efficient ways of running colleges and universities said that the tuition is not so high.
And there are a lot of kids who can't afford to go to about college without help -- on certainly in favor of health.
But also being burdened by -- I laughed and accident.
You know it's a -- around your neck before you can get started on your career I remember well my husband -- paying off our loans and finally getting to the point.
Where we paid them off but it's taking way too long.
Are absolutely -- -- -- about you running for mayor.
Are you going to run for mayor may -- next time around what's your plan well I believe net debt being an elected official is one of the most profound ways you can contribute and I do plan to run at some point all right well we'll will look Korea may be -- -- -- for schools may need to get in office fairly soon.
-- -- coming on tonight really appreciate your time thanks.
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