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    Author Brad Thor on his latest book, “Black List”.

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About Emerson went Bernard of the number of New York -- number one best sellers -- your book is -- blacklist.

Brad sort of wanted to -- the -- -- now belated happy birthday actor Mario come to a well thank you thanks for having me on again this year.

You're quite welcome so Hollander -- -- every year.

Write a book every single year yet new thriller every summer.

Really the and a you measure dress and a little might do you mind you know Michael because no I don't.

Don't worry is not -- no I'm not familiar with the he's -- little.

Boy is a writer surveys say is -- either big test or charter.

And novelist Iraq's young adult novels and many of them of system Vermont -- -- -- -- -- a little bit.

My wife is the big sports fans she's a sports medicine doctor so she's written a book you have on last week I think is it dead dream team -- Mallard drickamer she loves it that's -- -- -- right now so she's she's deepen that thinks it's fantastic.

Sort -- book is called black oil some water -- current.

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Sure -- room up -- I don't wanna disastrous ago they read it soft economy.

That's -- you get a read it right sure glad somebody in the failed leader somebody I had the religious -- it's and it's terrific artists on on the levered complicated life per adult.

I call on another signal read your books of -- New York Times number one best sellers.

-- -- talk about blacklist tell me again what your background.

My dad's a marine.

No longer active my mom was a flight attendant for TWA and -- -- were very supportive of me much -- said go to school get a business degree don't do anything with the arts and what an age who picked a fight -- -- became an author and I have my own TV show on public television for a couple of years travel show -- a backpack and a real passcode Europe.

But -- always wanted to write thrillers.

You know my honeymoon my wife said what would -- -- -- your deathbed never having done and I said writing a booking getting a publishing she said fine now that you secrets -- amend their issue unless you make it happen.

And so two hours today she suggested I start doing protected time no phone no facts and we -- and that's what I've done and now this is my yet twelfth thriller.

There's have a job -- a time -- to according to ars that are arriving.

I was doing the show for public television -- hosting producing and writing that show and we were in between seasons -- -- -- take this time and I'm not gonna wake up on my deathbed and say what if and that made all the difference I I can't say how happy I -- -- I chose to do it but it was frightening what if I fail what if I don't sell it's what if nobody likes it.

I think that's what holds a lot of people back from doing what they really want to do in life.

-- -- don't drive them.

80% to get resumed on a loner and allow Internet it's absolutely true absolute -- Who told you that.

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Time world champion cowboy yeah over anyway -- tell -- -- -- -- pluses about.

Well in 1975.

Frank church went on Meet the Press to talk about the intelligence gathering capabilities of the US Intel community and he warned that if the NSA ever turn its giant listening years in on the US.

Privacy is we knew we be dead.

And we would have crossed the surveillance rubicon I found -- that.

Fascinating problems in asset -- -- -- -- the National Security Agency drugs and that's what happened after 9/11 all of a sudden the giant listening years turned in in all of us were being listened to -- you know weird listen everybody trying to find the bad guys.

And I think you know what this would make a fascinating -- thriller because there's surveillance technologies exploding in the US -- it.

What if somebody gets a hold it tries to turn it against us and that's the basis for blacklist.

And much solutions.

-- Actual real life -- Most of it is.

All the technology have gotten the book I mean I'm trying to give people a beach read book in my hand toes in the -- kind of experience.

But there's tons of stuff people -- the best emails I get -- when people email me and say you know what.

I'm gonna have my laptop open when I read two books because I can't believe this stuff is true.

And -- -- from one thing to another to another and say you know what it's all true in the book so I think for people that are interest I think this is gonna be the next big thing we're talking about the United States because were all being watched 24 hours a day whether it's your cellphone data's being collected your text.

Your emails.

You know there's a reason that the National Security Agency can't fit its headquarters out in Bethesda Maryland -- that -- Fort Meade Maryland anymore and had to pay two billion dollars to build a new facility out Salt Lake.

But first quarter to quarter.

Of the company's work for them -- -- compelled to.

Sure growth everything and of them doesn't wish to have.

Control themselves -- -- on the you know.

On their thrown out on -- world -- but it took a look at -- -- will never let my children go on FaceBook and Twitter it's never gonna happen.

It's IE it's to me that's a that's a bad thing you see kids make bad choices and things like data comes back to haunt him later in life I mean you've got a permanent.

You know it's it's not even a footprint messy and it's like do any it's cement cast outside did the Chinese theater.

This is day eight C I don't think the surveillance technologies good I'm a big straightened straighten.

Down the line straight -- law and order guy.

And I just think you know Ben Franklin said that if we trade liberty for security will end up losing -- and I think that's what's happening under the rubric of you know -- We're gonna make you safer but you gotta give -- more your liberty not a big fan of that inside the gimmicks for a fund ride to waste in the thriller world.

We're about forging year old -- -- -- there for his -- dark greater good minorities as soon as Smart enough to understand.

But after Richard talking about functional where's a good and you got -- -- still he's doing rodeo writes -- is also white -- cover -- -- help the government find out about sure someone else.

But I agree I think too many people are just thinking about the next latte or what's on TV tonight and are not paying attention to what's going on so I think that's a fun thing about my books if you wanna have a fund beach -- it's -- but there's many different layers and yet closed the book and you I hopefully at some questions about what's going on.

Well Zack brown the last not a Sam -- the water and and blacklist and handles a lot of bad enough thought about where he's -- -- summer Ireland that I know and listen I've got I -- you and I have a friend in Mary Matalin so I just signed a book for Marion James Simpson and abdominal Orleans today.

Storyline -- he's been a big boost her mind she's a terrific lady I can't tell you how how big good she's been -- me in my career she is clinically.

In saying that epithet that apparatus or are -- Imus in the morning program whose new book destined for number -- -- blacklist you are reduced morning.

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