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Is a Compromise on Taxes Needed to Avoid the Fiscal Cliff?

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    Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist argues politicians need to rein in spending, not raise taxes.

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Tax cuts is reaching a fever pitch Democrats say raise them.

Even if it means we go off a fiscal clip and most Republicans have pledged not to raise him -- the front page of today's New York Times says.

Virtually every Republican in congress has taken the pledge pushed by Grover Norquist America has for tax reform.

Never to vote for tax increase a pledge both parties see as a serious impediment to a tax compromise basically they're saying that a week off the cliff.

You should blame my next guess I'm joined by the man himself Grover Norquist.

President of Americans for Tax Reform -- thanks for coming back to the show.

Good to do it -- so how do you feel about being blamed today.

Well remember what they'll let our friends the Liberal Democrats say says the pledge taken by most Republicans to the American people.

That they will oppose any effort to raise taxes.

Is an impediment true.

Tax increases.

And -- -- Patty Murray and President Obama and Harry Reid want us to raise taxes to pay for a bomb as larger government.

They are unhappy that the American people want elected officials to.

Not raise taxes.

-- going to.

They say you're not giving them any room to compromise that when -- -- just glad it's -- no stone and there's never to compromise.

Well there's lots of room to compromise why just last year in 2011.

Republicans wanted to cut spending six trillion dollars over the next decade and -- they cut spending two and a half trillion dollars over the next decade.

That was a compromise in the direction of less government.

What the taxpayer protection pledge is is a commitment by.

Senators and congressmen and governors and state legislators that they're not gonna raise taxes we don't have that.

Problem in Washington that the peasants are sending enough money to Washington.

The problem is that that the dukes and kings in and out politicians and -- are spending too much money.

What is it is we're still -- -- I don't.

It to go off the fiscal cliff in order to make this point I mean for example the Aerospace Industry Association putting -- a study yesterday I think it was -- everybody's talking about it today saying that it's gonna cost two million jobs to the economy over the next ten years they only see a million of those coming from defense cuts but another billion coming from just domestic spending cuts.

Do you think that's to be a price to -- not -- Taxes.

And raising taxes wouldn't help that.

Raising taxes would kill jobs I think that that's the aerospace industry think should you raise taxes you create jobs up that dumbest thing I've ever heard from the aerospace.

Industry I hope they don't run their businesses thinking like that.

Look it let's not mix two different issues -- one -- -- sequestration.

Of reducing spending by a hundred billion a year from the increases that a -- already cooked into the box.

Which is the seek restriction that congress -- agreed -- that woods save taxpayers a hundred billion a year or less spending.

For the next decade -- a trillion dollars total attacked the idea that not spending a hundred.

Billion dollars more next year than we can afford.

Would cost two million jobs that sounds like Obama thinking in reverse remember what he promised his 800 billion dollars sort of pretty athletic automatic cuts at this point is that your reading for you think -- would be the best solution.

Well one solution is that the automatic cuts going to places over a ten year period we're not talking about big cuts for alleged fifty billion dollars year.

On defense -- -- -- in domestic discretionary over.

Hundred million dollars which is a fraction of what they're spend it.

I would be very open to the idea deciding how did to save a hundred billion dollars of taxpayer money.

In different ways.

It be useful if the defense appropriations committees would put out some suggestions on how to reform.

Spending how to reform their purchasing.

How to look at whether they need as many civilian.

Bureaucrats is they have now I've talked people of the Pentagon -- you could get by.

-- -- -- Last in the way of contractors and employees and so -- -- save a lot of money they're not making any effort to do that now so let's have them put some things on the table on how to save money.

So we -- yes we should spend last.

Can you do it in different -- absolutely.

We -- -- -- about their plans to let that tax.

Extension expired.

Let the tax cuts expire and then go ahead and bring -- back just for people who are making under two and 50000 hours this is the latest scheme.

To sort of -- everything that's going on what you think about that.

That the modern Democratic Party.

It is planning a 500 billion dollar tax increase on January that's when.

The Alternative Minimum Tax goes from hitting four million families got 31.

Million families.

When your thousand dollar per child tax credit -- -- to 500 dollars a marriage penalty.

Comes back the death tax goes to 55%.

All of that taxes on small businesses jump up dramatically that 45%.

From 35 percent.

Not I didn't general I don't wanna run out of time without asking about this poll that was out today -- is really interesting.

It is a 52% of registered voters say that they want the tax cuts extended to everyone only 43% say yeah.

The only people under 250000 dollars but more interesting voters aged aged.

Eighteen to 29.

-- the tax cuts for everyone by a margin of 69 to twenty ninths of young people.

By an overwhelming majority want everyone to have the tax cuts -- -- what do you make about what the take.

Oh bomblets Obama's class warfare is not playing with the young people it's not playing with Hispanics there also overwhelmingly.

In favor of continuing the tax cuts for all Americans and it doesn't play with the upper income people.

Whose votes he won.

Four years ago he is really -- up his reelection by becoming.

The candidate.

Envy and class discord.

And and and being what other people do rather than I'm -- going forward and being optimistic that and it now goes on and they.

Robert thank you so much for coming on the program.