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Joining us -- to help us better understand what is happening -- health care system.
And two patients former prosecutor Fox News legal analyst least we'll Fox News senior medical contributor doctor Marc Siegel.
Good to have you both here let me start if I may with -- doctor -- and the idea that 83% of doctors would think about quitting.
Do you do you think that number is realistic.
But -- in -- I do because that follows several other surveys that show pretty much the same thing I call it doctor discontent.
Because I don't actually believe that physicians will quit they're trapped in the system but what it tells you.
Is that they'll stop taken insurance if they can and if that happens -- -- knife in the back of obamacare because what what Obama -- is.
Is not an expansion of health care but -- the expansion of health insurance both public and private public in terms of Medicaid.
Private in terms of the individual mandate you gotta buy insurance.
Wouldn't that almost make it worse for people that don't have much money because of -- doctors won't take insurance than what -- -- -- Psycho win with my children and they've got a -- or whatever and they want take my insurance I have to pay up front is that what -- sending.
Least I am absolutely saying that I'm actually recasting that number of hearing that number 90000 is not real -- that's the doctor shortage but when you can't -- -- Doctors who aren't taking insurance.
Or doctors were people who can't see your show has record -- their fault you know Massachusetts there's a three to four month wait for many specialties that's what the it -- you can't.
But that's -- -- Atlantic Canada politics.
Right is that where we're headed -- we also know that doctors -- Have complained loudly for decades but now there are screaming.
About the -- the failure to do anything about tort reform.
Now black -- the lawyers the -- well.
Act now I'm not -- Wiki I agree if -- you guys are the ones practices and I don't want a good thing.
-- with but he effect and practice -- practice never makes perfect in the sense.
But you know what what's going on right -- you've been watching what's happening in the house and -- look at the look at the hearings nobody's there why is nobody there because everybody knows it's not gonna pass it's dead on arrival started -- -- to a doctor -- it's dead on arrival.
Because of President Obama has that even if it gets in which it won't -- something like nineteen I don't report dead on arrival in the sense -- -- -- were passed house bill I have not the -- by.
By the senate did pass the senate Obama has said that he would not he would veto anything the content but it won't get to -- before ending up August recess it's a -- Random of this can begin of discontent in the house at least -- to commit further point about but with but with little -- -- point.
Here it's not just fear of malpractice.
It's not just I'm gonna get sued it's a culture.
That you may actually get some sometime in your lifetime and that creates a culture of fear right it permeates how we practice I might say.
I'm gonna order cats can now because maybe five years from now don't -- something -- miss some very.
And the callers are -- direct already have positions or alcoholic fed -- -- medicine.
It's defensive medicine and it goes way beyond the fifty billion dollars they usually tout as the number that is costing the health care system wave way way beyond that it's -- -- would also -- As I think most people are acknowledged what is reflected in the polls.
They are very uncomfortable with what this law does which is constrained choice are restrict freedom.
And and yet.
We are sitting here watching a debate to repeal a law that we know we all -- and without any.
-- -- at 31 time that they're trying to do this -- it's the first time really in this country where we are being forced we as every single Americans country.
Being forced to contract with a private company against our wishes it's not.
S -- saying you know you need to have driver's insurance law insurance if you want to drive OK I get that but even if you don't want health insurance you must contract with the with the private insurance company what I always thought it in the -- on contracts -- contracts that teaches me that you can't force to people who have no bargaining power -- to.
-- -- you know anyone I don't know how he's used have a free market solution to this simply make insurance portable -- were always saying you know why because in New York.
You have to cover preexisting condition so -- the bottom.
If you could buy a policy that originated in New York you could cover pre -- -- executives and ticket with you simply make insurance portable.
Don't give those insurance companies the wavered anti trust legislation that they have make it so that it can go across the -- that's what should have been part of the annual.
The economics of this and the politics -- extraordinary which -- well one of the professional search nations the AMA sold out big time.
For the so called docked pay eight.
And really you know are your association your leading professional association is responsible for much of what we're looking -- to.
Well I call it a faustian deal because first of all that in and they didn't even get the doc fix they settled the obamacare table way at the beginning and they -- it will back this law if you stop penalizing us a potential now it's 28%.
Per year in Medicare fees you know that actually didn't happen and frankly go -- -- doesn't really represent practicing physicians.
It represents under 20% of physicians period.
And I on the air renounce my membership last year and I really believe that there and I'd rather quiet there's -- you just to have about the credit.
Attacking -- such as may be -- mean same -- that kind of thing where the difference the difference here is that we're watching six of the top.
Be taken over by the federal government individual charged was eliminated.
We're going to have a shortage of 90000 doctors within this decade.
And if that makes sense to anyone.
You know particulars are watching and being debated in the house were present there actually debate.
-- there will be more hours devoted to the debate to repeal this law and were spent in past half.
Remembering what it wants to hang it on -- -- Other one thing I always have this 33 committees that this -- brings -- -- place talk about big government I -- all the regulations and restrictions while negative and.
Hard -- my other worry about the Supreme Court decision getting back to that is that you know now we call this attacks not a penalty and Justice Roberts came around that it is attack that's the only reason that the sculpture.
Slippery slope where does that -- Where does it -- and and will we see an end to the rationalizations.
And the apology is that are being spewed from the right about -- -- -- Chief Justice John Roberts and his decision.
It's remarkable to see that take place -- -- somehow we can be just well I've -- but.
But if it's attacked it's attacked that it will one fact of the matter is is is a change -- our health care system.
Are -- economy and our -- -- Well obviously it's also where it.
It's also redistribution in a really bad way people that are very healthy.
And young are buying into the kind of insurance they don't need an overblown comprehensive insurance for the worried well an eighteen year old -- -- -- are you talking about the free riders.
Don't know exactly look if you're eighteen you should really get on the treadmill and get a tax credit.
I thought I would opt opt out of that public about Roberts 12 it was a very conservative decision in that what he was sang it.
I'm not -- overturned law.
May unlock -- -- what you -- past you mean you know the legislature -- and that you hold elective legislators to pass this stuff.
I'm not get overturned that if I can find a way in the well at least not being.
The judge didn't -- rewrite that will not really because he's saying it's -- it's not talking about those rationalizations.
Of those apology is.