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This from Chicago from 20012010.
Chicago area pension debt to grew 600%.
Totaling 27 point four billion -- us.
Just last week the Supreme Court delivered a major blow to the unions and how the SE -- U -- views and following Wisconsin governor Scott Walker's recall.
It could be the beginning of the end for the unions are -- -- all through all -- the death of liberalism and joins us from Washington.
I guess you that you think that said this is the beginning of the end for public sector unions -- Well I I wrote that the death of liberalism.
After thank you very carefully about all of this I think the real that that the unions are one problem.
For liberalism but far more important.
Is of the fiscal insolvency in the country -- state local and national levels and this fiscal insolvency is going to have -- for the second.
-- -- -- -- Not independents to join with conservatives and they're going to sweep rob out in this -- are gonna sweep Obama out of office he's of course is styled socialist.
He beat -- Hillary Clinton in -- way and put.
Put paid to liberalism.
-- you've been reading the tea leaves on the Supreme -- like everybody else has.
You think that the mandates is toast it's gone.
Yes I think -- But that doesn't have anything you about the death of liberal and as I couldn't believe I believe the Supreme Court is.
Role -- by the law and the law is what it is -- My second Bob I think it does represent a huge setback -- liberalism in the sense that it's a setback for the whole idea that government does everything for everybody.
It always struck down on reversed.
And and I I think he's non that it obamacare is unpopular.
I think American exceptional -- is coming -- the -- -- fits with your your your whole schedule here.
That's correct and in one other aspect of this law.
In the whole country there's a clutch of people that understand -- the rest of the nation doesn't understand it well the liberals.
Enamored of passing laws that were -- -- on understandable on incomprehensible.
To be a majority the American people.
And I think that in itself.
Puts this law.
Beyond the pale.
Do you can you see the day in the near future well we will ban.
Public sector unions is.
Well I don't know I mean I'm no expert on unions I really don't know but they are -- trouble you can be sure of that.
Well general we thank you and I'm sorry.
Just call me often that.
Yes that is a deal thank you very much indeed for joining us so we much appreciate it thank you I.
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