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For that the UN climate summit in Rio wrapping up this week so what do you think.
The world's biggest environmental challenges.
According to those environmentalists.
Are our next guest has a different idea and it -- global warming Bjorn -- -- Is professor at that Copenhagen business school and author of the book cool it.
Joining me with a lot more they've -- placed misdirected focus.
Absolutely I mean everybody 50000 people going to Rio to say we should be focusing on global warming but let's just remember.
The biggest environmental problems in the Third World is air and water pollution six million people by -- here.
About 210 times as many as even with the very very nice estimates for global warming would -- by the -- focused.
Why it just doesn't make any sense it just seems completely illogical.
Air and water pollution -- -- -- Nobody cares about it there's no no glitz hear about stuff going to going on about that they if you go with global warming if you say we need to go green.
First of all you get everybody applauding -- but it also get lots and lots of subsidies there's lots to be.
Make money off of the apps rein him that government's farm wider doling out on doling out money to go -- But you cooked up this idea -- Is -- is the thinking that as countries develop that they will take care of their own water pollution problems an air pollution problems and -- leave -- there on devices but we're gonna impose this green agenda on -- to -- global warming I.
I honestly think it's much more sort of feel good.
Run amok as the idea that we want to save the planet and people want to do that with global warming.
But there's -- -- more saving that needs to be done right now but it's just not trendy it's not the exciting thing today and at the same time we of course have.
All the money being -- to to to create opportunities but the real point here is.
That's why -- -- -- Everybody down there is basically saying they have this 45 page document assessed.
Nothing why wouldn't why doesn't this change though is what I want to know and why is like.
Why is it feel good just making fuel cheaper for everyone I mean I'm changes that is just not water and air but.
Making fuel cheaper for everyone because that gives everybody quality of life it just simply getting around whether you're here.
Or in South America are in Asia and you have more money to spend on other thing that's.
What all the developing countries -- and they're getting more and more powerful every day.
China didn't lift 600 million people out of poverty by putting up solar panels they did so by using lots of lots of cold dirty coal.
And what we should do this to try to make sure that that dirty coal can be replaced eventually with cheap effective green -- but right now.
Everyone knows it's fossil fuels as a way to go so what we should be focusing on are the really important environmental problem map and then of course -- -- -- in the long run through as we always have innovation.
It's great to see you want to thank you so much so.
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