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-- new lawsuit is a threat to zoos as we know them.
A lawsuit claims the elephants at the Los Angeles zoo all in -- and depressed and even sexually frustrated.
If zoos are seen as bad for the animals would backstop the donations from rich people going to -- joining us now is piper Hoffman.
She's in -- Tony columnist and animal rights activist and you support this lawsuit youth you don't want -- do -- I do not like since when with a they are cruel to animals they exploit the animals that elephants in this lawsuit are very good example.
-- life spans are about half what they would be in the wild -- infant mortality is about.
Three times what it would be in the -- of the -- is right yes.
Fitness and finally generally if I've got six kids not to -- as it.
-- exploiting a giraffe if I pay my tickets admit myself to the zoo and look at -- -- and take it from my exploiting it a I believe the question is how the draft is treated and how the draft is living on the you'll find that in all zoos because of the confinement elements it is wrong.
Absolutely you wanna read my -- -- noses period but I believe than animals would be better off in the wilder and wildlife sanctuary and so you you just don't want and isn't this money get rid of all my that's correct but what about the joy that parents have been taking decades to see the exotic animals of the world we're gonna deny me that there many activities parents can do with their children that would bring them -- All -- -- I would.
-- yeah I know somebody.
-- taken my son to the zoo and taken a month safari.
And support and animals rights as a result of seeing animals in all states of applications I think you're being needlessly.
Limited in your our perspective.
I think -- in some cases a safari that would be -- visiting animals and while I.
Different thus far it expert to tell I'm -- -- -- Africa one through wildlife sanctuary where you could just observe on that the animals.
Doesn't that everyone have so -- -- to go on trips like that that that that's okay then right.
-- -- I can drive my car through an animal sanctuary somewhere in America and look at them and -- -- is certain situations I think that that would be okay but confinement is wrong.
Confinement keeping them out of their natural habitat the elephants in this lawsuit have three acres and then wild they would room for eighteen hours a day I think what you -- -- -- Disney people -- animal kingdom.
Not to -- so what what -- originally.
To do that with that particular lawsuit in Los angeles' you're trying to shame wealthy people so they will not give it to -- you make -- stand a -- look what you do and confining and -- this is wrong wrong wrong so the -- he would don't contribute money that's what you're doing is well first of all I'm not involved in the lawsuit I understand but that's the objective here is meant to shame people.
Not believe the objective is actually to -- these elephants and to improve the condition your objective is to end zoos as we know them in America and everyplace else.
Think yes you in -- went.
I hope that one -- -- well.
-- indicates no I don't if you do have children you would deny them the joys of going to -- For me going to zoo was never enjoy I felt sad seeing the animals imprisons.
Can we use to have an in sectarian for example went on to go and -- insects in the zoo.
If you want to see let me and I'm -- assistant says is in such OK if there and there -- natural habitats and a launched a holding area sniper.
It -- -- they couldn't possibly have enough room following natural and -- -- Let me ask you questions you inspired however to study animals to protect animals because is he just said you -- -- -- -- Howard children going to be exposed animals to be inspired to -- then then there's a lot of it was my area yeah though they exerted did not inspire me my -- have inspired I'm wondering how you would be able to eat out -- protecting animals that were never brought as a child is you know you're saying it was your cat.
I don't believe.
A -- hello it's absolutely do you think that within ten years you can close down all -- zoos in America within ten years now twenty.
I doubt it.
I'm not I'm a little bit of a pessimist paramedic and you and I were both and and and that I don't know -- worse than -- the Harvard Law School and we've managed to survive off.
By the half an -- anti zoo crusade what have you back and opinion from you again thank you.