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Author Linda Fairstein on the case surrounding former Penn State football coach Jerry Sandusky.
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So the prosecution presenting their side of Thomas and send us to -- dollar prostitution.
Presenting their side of the -- testimony.
Horrific testimony of Rivera's.
Victims of this -- And defense will then of course present their side of the story and they're gonna say.
What you're supposed.
I don't think they have a lot to say the attack first of all name victims who testified this week the accusers.
And the hasn't even taken them head on it -- has not been by sandusky -- A claim that none of these things ever happened he did -- under the circumstances I guess what he could.
Which was chip away -- -- if someone has said earlier that -- been molested 23 times and now is saying it was 27.
He's.
And attacking their ability to -- call were -- be precise.
And so he's looking for inconsistencies.
Chipping at these cases my understanding.
Is that these.
Still young man young adult men were were very compelling witnesses in the -- -- In my chapter in a way -- consistencies.
-- that -- an effort to suggest.
That's it didn't happen -- all.
-- is hoping that it it if you don't believe that there that they can remember accurately.
What they said and that they didn't report at the time in -- now some of the details are different.
Maybe some of them are making -- -- maybe they're making it up because they want money he's he's all over the -- heated defense attorney is all over the map.
That through these young -- implying.
Different takes that.
The accumulated testimony -- eight accuses who testified.
Very very compelling and compelling as to detail.
Really.
-- horrific accounting.
Of the years of abuse.
Now on and getting these young -- -- testified.
What you probably -- to do.
Over -- to implement and his office right yes many tabloid what general -- -- motivation.
-- most most witnesses in this kind of case are are reluctant to come forward -- -- they are taking on a very powerful man they're taking on a man -- Being credited in the community not just the -- lives in but here Penn State and legendary football program.
So there's a tremendous reluctance in many these cases where the the offender is.
Celebrity a power figure well respected.
You know these cases very much like to cases with clergy where parents have said.
You go with the Coach are you go with the -- -- you go with the teaching you you do would every says because he's the best.
So often -- kids get into things that start you read this word grooming this process.
Where it's not like send -- -- -- them to.
-- his basement and attacked them right away usually starts with.
Some other kind of fumbling -- back rubbing with the the hands on the shoulders.
And moves slowly towards sexual conduct there's gifts there is things that make it attractive to be -- Trips away.
And so.
And -- -- trips TRE peanut chips -- there -- other places.
-- and for sports events and so there's -- a reluctance.
Characteristic in many of these cases and shown here of.
Witnesses young men young women to come forward and make these allegations so it's often hard to get them to testify there -- from doing it against.
The advice of family and and.
This is improved over time my American ambassadors so one -- -- buyout by him.
-- the most compelling tourism.
Budgetary -- and you really vital the -- one person who comes forward first and often.
Opens the floodgates is for the truth to come out for us -- -- punishment for this man to be brought to justice.
And then sometimes other people.
The field comfort that they're not the only ones they often thought especially kids teens adolescents.
They often feel so alone and isolated in this.
Then they come forward and Bosnia around testimony some them.
-- -- Oh yes the tests -- -- brings very very true and.
-- not just because one is piling in on the other.
But because of the exquisite detail that most of them have.
You've got some corroboration you've got to they've millions in the shower of course -- -- -- the here's the slapping of skin on skin and.
What does this guy doing in the shower with these kids anyway I mean it's just.
And the starts off being a rather outrageous scenario.
And slums and Australia.
His court communities -- to bring.
-- non frivolous.
Rather Blase about all those front rather -- a -- On his face and that they just and he may have been that way before the trial but he looks would -- have smiling at Dayton's.
I certainly can't imagine that he is.
And he may be medicated a lot of times when people go to trial -- is just a gas and I'm saying is that.
Many people or are put on tranquilizers so that they are not.
Appearing to be agitated whatever may be out part of the aspect.
And made it we know he's a strange guy from years of this conduct so maybe it's he's just strange.
-- argument fell -- Verisign Rosario.
Such crimes to hear -- -- man -- district attorney's office.
Or well over four years now -- -- wallboard but don't want her.
There are saying that -- some of these liberal or just financial delusional man -- Vienna for the -- -- downstate they a long amounting.
Oh -- that's an allegation that's always made in these cases.
And the interesting thing is of course if they were.
Physically abused they are intended title to sue that would be as separate case in a civil court.
And so as a prosecutor will be arguing to the jury.
I would I -- be -- to this jury didn't have a jury might hear that case in the separate time but this case is not about money you have to believe or not.
That these that -- -- convicted so they'll be as a separate forum for that.
Why Toyota.
Send us to have been conducted -- thing I think there's a very strong likelihood of convicted to overwhelming.
John -- -- also digression handle such intentions right John Edwards got off the bat.
Obviously as you know refresh -- it in this aspect.
-- no similarity hidden in the the allegations but.
Am much more complicated about whether -- what.
Happened was really crime or not I think even legal experts were on the fence here there's no issue about the conduct being not only reprehensible but.
But criminals so I think the gay issue might be weathered jury finds one -- two of these witnesses.
In and accused too late have too many inconsistencies.
-- could compromise you might lose an accuser or two.
But I think.
I think sends -- he's going down.
-- -- for the digress in did on a -- Abdullah.
General -- don't wanna my favorite restaurant and are probably from -- yes on second avenue -- sat -- -- table there confront.
Surrounded by photograph severe what's all about.
-- -- It's one of my favorite restaurants to punch and obviously.
Semi carry the character in my novels novels Alex Cooper the prosecutor.
Has to eat somewhere says she eats -- night watch the new book.
She needs them -- Ramallah and so the owner Giuliano.
Who doesn't read the books.
Does love the fact that he's mentioned it every -- so he's -- the book jackets.
Up on the wall my has been used to -- the my shrine to myself.
And and.
They're they're everywhere they're drilling on dollar slightly remind me out but moralist best customer opening -- appellate.
-- -- I have a contest going their problem put it.
Limbaugh's got -- managers and -- well there is a big man whose founder of them no oil yeah.
And their general Bob Beckel it's a that's that is -- big powerful guy and he's great he's.
