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Steve Malanga of the Manhattan Institute on the success of Governor Walker’s programs and their abilities to save municipalities money.
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The Wisconsin recall vote is the second most highly watched election this year it will have a national implications for November and for the state finance.
Elsewhere in the country.
Steve -- Lanka knows this stuff backwards and -- -- he's with the Manhattan institute Steve welcome thank you.
Let's suppose for second the government's gulf war -- winds one of the implications for unions and state finances elsewhere in the country.
I think that one of the biggest implications and one of the reasons that the unions needed to do this recall right away.
Is they don't want to see these things that he put in place war and they are already clearly working particularly with municipalities.
That the biggest problem unions have right now -- the guy who is opposing walker is Tom Barrett who is the mayor of Milwaukee and as the mayor of Milwaukee you Scott Walker's reforms to -- twenty million dollars in his budget in balance his budget this year which really upset union workers.
One of the things that walker said over and over again during the whole budget reform act is that municipalities school districts need this stuff to save money.
What's gonna happen is.
Around the country particularly in swing states people are going to see that this is the way you can manage budgets effectively.
And that is going to make it.
Much easier for them to point so was gulf war could -- was to restrict collective bargaining rights Bunyan municipal would you guess that that was the big restriction that he put in place which -- -- boots is the managers and tremendous flexibility I'm getting a perfect example for a -- -- example.
Okay as part of collect the barring the teachers union.
With -- with all the local school districts in Wisconsin required.
Not just that they have health care but that the health care be purchased through a teacher union owned insurance company.
Yes which was uncompetitive so now that they would that now that there's no collective bargaining on health -- schooled their social saying we -- going to bid out.
Our health care provider who are health care providers and the districts that have done that.
-- -- forty and 50%.
On their premiums just by doing that.
This is -- well publicized in Wisconsin so this goes national.
That that back kind of restriction on collective bargaining -- goes national he skull local winds yeah well the national I think there's little Bluetooth all right well let's say let's it's not gonna happen.
We're they're -- they're not gonna recent collective bargaining California okay -- New York or New York.
But I think in swing states I think -- and perhaps Kasich -- revisits what he did in Ohio I think that voters rethink and Ohio they're having trouble with their municipal budgets there.
I think maybe they begin to Wear it in places like that so I didn't -- let you know let let's not kid ourselves it's not gonna change.
-- I wouldn't go national I mean I think you radical Britain -- not what -- does the national this isn't a national dialogue states are broke whether it is New York or California.
Why don't why doesn't why can't this this question.
-- her when something like this is work well this.
Only a discussion -- even a discussion in California but there's no national legislation I think another not I'm not suggest right now hello California you just cited a moment ago California is broke -- that cutting back on educational services because their broke -- and they cannot -- the teachers' contracts which are already in place if they have a system like Scott Walker is gone and Wisconsin.
He put that in place in -- of California.
You would have -- partial answer to the problem wouldn't you know.
You would absolutely but where is the political will win the unions are actually from a vote yes.
Have we seen any of after you for Margaret.
I'm among among other things that you have to understand.
Is that a lot of places the system right now -- it is essentially rigged against the voters so you have places like New York State in New Jersey.
Where for instance school boards are elected not in November when everybody turns out but in place in in in in April for instance.
And so you know you get 70% turnout in April OK we want to throw the bums out except that the the people that are essentially voting.
Except when Governor Christie stands -- new -- as you only to go out and vote against the school board's potential your budget so so it's a very difficult reform process I have holidays I'd I'd just wanna raise one issue I read this in the Los Angeles Times -- places I don't know what you know about this -- The Los Angeles Times said that the -- -- ripped my head teaches that the retired teaches from one city Milwaukee.
Spent two billion dollars on health care in one year.
-- has Los Angeles time that was -- out of that first of all incredible first of all we have almost a trillion dollars in unfunded.
Retire real health care promises not pension promises.
But retiree health care prices that's actually -- -- nationally but in state.
-- Stockton California okay went broke Nassau County.
But these are places where they are currently paying.
As much in health care premiums for retiree health care as they are paying for the current workforce so it's like you have to work forces -- -- buying helped us.
And Italian at best the bargain that they're gonna -- they're gonna take low pay it is tough work to be -- let's be honest they're gonna -- -- you this is our fair comeuppance whether it is.
A plastic surgery in some instances or it is a retiree benefits for health care they're gonna say.
We deserve this well and people are gonna say we don't buy it because number one -- your salaries.
Number two and we can talk state by state and number two you're working a 180 days a year misplaced.
Will live following Wisconsin obviously very carefully and we thank you -- but let's see if this -- -- national with the very interesting Steve thank.
