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Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist on former Gov. Jeb Bush supporting $10 of spending cuts for every $1 increase in taxes.
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If you could bring to be a majority of people.
To say -- we're going to have ten dollars of spending cuts.
For one dollar.
Of revenue enhancement.
Put me in Coach.
And.
See it's always about money with me now the president of Americans for Tax Reform Grover Norquist -- So yeah by Jeb Bush it is generating generating tons a backlash used it was like being asked what's your favorite color unicorn which you mean -- Well quite embarrassingly for Jeb Bush -- hasn't been in politics for ten years so cut him some slack he came to DC and the Democrats -- and for breakfast.
They asked him that -- the stand up question which is -- -- if we cut spending a lot would you give us one -- dollar tax increase.
That's the Alley his father walked down and got mugged in 1990 the Democrats promised him two dollars.
Of real spending cuts for every dollar tax increase.
And of course the tax increases were real we're still paying them that's what got at the Reagan.
Tax reform proposal and he throw away Reagan's tax reform and a look a top rate of 28%.
In return for a Democrat promise to cut -- and what they do they raise spending.
And bush lost the presidency that -- -- or otherwise a competent president he got thrown out of the second term.
Because he felt for Lucy and the football -- again.
And then -- -- I want I do that -- -- you know he's someone who didn't sign your pledge even -- so many others haven't he's sad.
But he doesn't want to outsource his convictions or principles -- what do you think about that.
Well it shows that when he didn't sign the pledge he didn't read it.
The taxpayer protection pledge signed by a majority of the members of the house represented its -- 36 Republicans.
41 senators thirteen hundred state legislators thirteen governors they know what's -- it.
It's a promise to the voters of America -- promise to the voters of their state.
That they will oppose and vote against any tax increase if not promised to -- Jeb Bush hasn't read the pledge when he says something that goofy.
Read the leader rebut democratic leader in the senate he always says that died you know congressman or -- or promised Americans for Tax Reform.
The taxpayer group that I share.
That they promised ATR that they -- -- -- these promises to the American people.
Don't you risk looking like he won't work with anyone.
The risk of you say I'm never gonna raise taxes no matter what even -- -- one ratio do you risk looking like you're just not willing to work with the other side.
Now what what it says is when they promised Reagan three to one and Cheatham.
When they promised bush two to one and -- nobody tell anyone is even more made up.
Then go to one -- three -- want and we know that the Democrats want to raise taxes to spend the money they wanna raise taxes in order spend less.
Democrats had complete control the government in 20092010.
They could and anything they wanted to -- up spending know they increase and to date cut taxes -- they increase taxes.
We know what the Democrats want higher taxes and higher spending.
Imagining an imaginary unicorn where the Democrats have decided not to be Democrats anymore it's a children's games.
It's not a grown up thing at the -- Democrats want to raise taxes to spend more money.
At the end of the day is it about tax -- -- about saying I just don't want larger government anymore.
It's both.
The only way to reform government and this is where Paul Ryan is right.
And the Democrats are wrong the only way to reform government is -- say no tax increase period we're now gonna reform spending down.
That's what the Ryan budget does -- six trillion dollars over the next decade for what Obama wants to spend and bring spending down to 20% of GDP.
And then to 15%.
The economy it reforms government down but if you could raise taxes they will never reduced spending.
Or reform government.
About that hidden taxes in obamacare.
Well there about twenty different taxes not too well hidden although they don't talk about them a lot twenty different taxes and Obama care -- -- 2.3 percent.
Tax on a medical devices I get children's braces there's -- tax on that.
Stunt for your heart a pacemaker.
A wheelchair.
To get around these -- -- now have a tax so what Obama says he was gonna make health care more affordable.
I US -- talking about people who need braces or.
Or or medical devices and of course they increased taxes on the American people in a number of other ways including going up your flexible savings accounts.
Your health savings accounts.
There's -- -- -- three point 8% tax on all investment income.
Whatever your capital gains taxes at three point 8% whatever -- dividend taxes at three point 8%.
Is it sure is of massive tax increase is not limited to rich people.
Matter fact they go right the first tax they had was the tanning tax 10% tax on -- thirty million Americans I doubt they were all named Buffett.
The thirty million American should go to tanning salons.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Let me ask you -- taxes in the upcoming election I mean -- -- -- central issues has been tax fairness that they reach should be asked me pay eight -- should.
Asked to pay a little bit more their fair share.
Because we're in such -- time what's the right response to that.
Because a lot of people think that that just sounds fair were all struggling rich have more they should -- to resolve these problems.
The problem is the government spending too much and the only people responsible for spending too much.
Are the -- the president and congress now it's true that Reid Pelosi and Obama -- us on this path towards Greece.
And we need to get off that path.
So Obama's spend to bankrupt the country it's not somebody else's.
Job to pay for his mistakes.
We need to repeal his mistakes his stimulus his bail -- -- -- additional spending programs.
Raising taxes does not help you spend less money since the problem is we spend too much the Democrats keep wanting to look at the tax issue and say well you know.
The -- just start sending enough money into the -- that's the problem not the king spending at the bit peasants are lazy.
Go make them spend more and -- the -- we'll get the -- watch the rich peasants.
How about spend less and tax everybody laughs normal peasants and -- locks.
You know I didn't know there were rich presence -- learn something new every day Garber thanks so much for joining us we appreciate it.
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