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Joel Tenenbaum discusses the lawsuit the RIA has filed against him for illegally downloading music.
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-- the governor's cracking down on illegals are not immigrants music downloads.
Results -- -- I'm fighting to 675000.
Dollar fine for illegally downloading and sharing thirty songs of freedom court refusing his appeal.
But that was partly a soccer -- being here is.
Is a good development told good having you.
You're in big trouble and then -- and out.
Well let's say it's good to be -- -- it's actually not down.
What about a do well it's actually not a fine it's actually not a a kind of government county it's the civil lawsuit between the RYA.
And may but the RIA was using the extensive legal system and the legal system put in place by the -- settled up.
Your question it's a distinguished civil or not as you do have to pay a billion -- in out of that and that's a lot of money to pay I assume you don't have the money to back it.
Not gonna graduate student for the last six years I'm I'm not rich I'm not a corporation I'm disturbed person why did you download I don't know a lot of people billing you might have been one caught in.
And they needed is trying to make a lessen that view from an example.
For both what what if it does happen.
What what I think what happened now does this happen where there's this that you know civil thing you know region.
For doing what a lot of Americans do all the time.
Well a lot of to make an example out of me they sued me in addition to something 120000 other people.
I'll pick that have been millions of people who are doing this this is very much what what can we got a long way generation thought she -- what what will include the man.
Well what the RIA does is they have aid -- an agent that acts on their behalf.
That goes on to the file sharing program and then does screen captures showing the files -- you're sharing.
They then take that information with the IP address give that to the RIA.
Within subpoenas -- Internet service writer and then they can do full exploratory.
They can do everything that the federal government basically.
Allows them to do as the plaintiffs in the lawsuit which includes seizing my computer copping a whole thing subjecting me to sixteen hours of love deposition.
Now I know everybody are good many people do -- -- and you've got caught doing this but it doesn't make it any.
-- wrong right I mean what you did was wrong and what you did.
-- only -- of legal.
World ash.
I think that's sort of questioning is something of -- maybe a disconnect between people.
That are older that haven't been doing some people who are younger people who are more used to may be reading the news from a newspaper is people were more used to reading it online.
There I mean this is something that was very very common it's.
Before this it was people taping songs off the radio and it wasn't like anybody -- occurred.
The idea that that would be something terribly terribly wrong.
But will candidates or exactly what people and you know -- sound like a savvy guy.
No that that is wrong and that there are then there's that you download something you gotta -- -- and and you didn't.
Well but now it's it's not simply that black and white if you look at the people who do download illegally they -- 50% more on legal music this is that this is a means of expiration in my generation.
Has used to explore these kinds of things on the fact that there's been such a huge loss -- over this thing.
And such a big example they're trying to make out of me.
Has really changed -- people stop using these big easily traceable file sharing programs.
Now they're going further underground thing into programs called up bit towards but it doesn't really change -- -- it's sort of something it's there it's.
Our answer -- exchanges like there's thought that risk though Laura eulogized.
Holding back looking at a settlement shilling for a while listening to the music yet have not downloading -- and -- Well in the event that I that I want music but I want to doing outset by -- CDO online so that the royalties don't go back to the RIA I don't by music from the new I don't buy and -- if it's -- -- affiliated.
Which is difficult because they control 90% of the commercial music in this country by their own how much music -- think collectively you've downloaded.
Well at the time -- they sued me I think it was something like 800 songs in my computer which.
Was apparently embarrassingly small you tell I mention this.
-- -- -- -- -- that you if it was not a proud number I did not have a lot of -- so there's this image that I'm this huge -- -- hundred tons and tons of music.
It's just not the case -- had to download and what he -- they exemption what did you download.
Well it was a matter of they have this media agent who goes -- a look at the share Fuller looking it songs that are shared.
With the pattern seems to be in these lawsuits is they -- like really really popular songs.
The basically everybody Dallas Eveready shares songs that they -- concerning -- accounting errors on.
There are thirty songs there are listed online it's it's an arbitrary sampling -- -- like to me -- funds Nirvana come as you are one and Green Day minority Al -- There's a feel that it hits us and a very good -- it's.
Your help them ostensible -- -- seem to think so well I don't know -- and wanted to know I hope you work this out it does seem.
To be a disproportionate.
Suits in the so called crime but will will -- and keep us posted -- thank you very much.
Sure thing over to me.
