This transcript is automatically generated
Indeed Dan takes aim at South Carolina governor Nikki Haley and this -- video ads going viral -- -- in the states in the union leaders savagely beating up from Ghana emblazoned with Republican governor phase.
The governor responded via Twitter saying how I wonder -- unions think this kind of thing will make people take them.
Seriously and my next guest says you know what -- is serious and it was his idea he's South Carolina AFL CIO's bread Percy.
And he was last year's labor activists of the year any joins me -- -- thank you so much for your time -- really appreciate you joining us.
I just wanna get these ridiculous I wanna give -- some your reaction to what they -- -- on that video that went viral it was mean spirited.
Politically dim witted gives legs of the description of union people less bugs.
And that it would went out of prison wrote an F a small businessman had been a pinata of a democratic politician.
That person would have been hauled into hearings on Capitol Hill what do you make of the reaction.
Well I think it's much ado about nothing but I welcome the opportunity for rational discussion about labor's relationship with capital.
-- event happened at the end of the day long conference where we were.
Celebrated on the will the president of the AFL CIO's long commitment.
Organized labor working -- -- -- in South Carolina.
And if you hadn't been with us you have to -- South Carolina.
Of having been bashed repeatedly.
Over forty and -- by the governor the governor said on our last state of the state message from unions and I'll welcome in South Carolina.
And she's gone out of her way to make you do everything that shoots him for most -- regular Department of Labor and regulations.
To be able to make it harder for workers himself from a -- so organized.
She's promoted budget cuts -- working people.
South Carolina -- to have no how's the lowest number oh vote we suture eligible for unemployment insurance after you lose your job.
We've got higher the national average unemployment for those of the things that we need to be talking.
How can we not a comic relief I you're just saying I wanna get to the statement from the AFL CIO itself and this is a -- we're hearing while it was meant as -- there's absolutely no place for that kind of joke and a conversation that is extremely serious about our.
Need to how we need to rebuild our middle class and our country.
There's plenty to talk about and governor Haley is -- -- record we do not believe that's an appropriate joke working people deserve a better.
Conversation do you feel like this thing on it incident is basically -- to turn people against.
What you were just saying that people are gonna shut down and not listen to what you're saying are -- afraid about.
No I don't think so I think due to people who use or just might be shot down.
For those that are sitting through Lou Lou the foolishness and ideological -- of people like governor Haley.
That group or against government there against taxes.
The economy is not going to improve until we create jobs.
And so I think that there -- a lot of people in South Carolina and across the United States that perfectly understand.
And I think everything I -- remains owners saying is that big government can't always be.
The organization that creates jobs that taxes are basically gouging the middle class taxpayer in your own state.
And it's not doing it much toward the way of -- you -- yourself you're states.
Unemployment rate is higher than the national average.
Suez if if people understood the truth and -- of the rhetoric.
South Carolina is fiftieth in the nation in per capita tax Berquist -- overtaxed that's more of the ideological.
Bit Nikki Haley and her ilk are using to beautiful -- -- working people who voted gilts -- own interest.
All right we'll right to work states -- -- personal income is up to 40%.
-- right to work states only up 36 as I'm seeing the private sector job creation right to work states.
Up one and a half million jobs non right to work states down one point nine million jobs were talking about the ways to create jobs.
I think that the American people I'm and I'm sure they would want to hear what you have to say.
I think they're tired of the us against them kind of rhetoric I'm gonna give you final word on one more reaction to this not every union moment in this -- -- Twitter that went out.
Not every -- moment as a Sally Field Norma Rae moment when it's about gouging taxpayers who often pay government union worker wages.
And also taxpayers have helped the fund the government and your states like South Carolina -- -- -- -- final word.
Well first -- make sure that you understand that I'm not representing the AFL CIO -- Mike -- union number 31 nearest.
The question about the the difference and disparities move up and down and blue -- right to work State's right to work -- self draws biggest industries have been talks of waste and nuclear waste we -- cheap here.
And so if there's like a bump them down low wage labor it's going to reflect in South Carolina and -- as the latest.
Latest job this year recruiter was a call center from India -- now the Nikki -- is decided we don't have to compete with Arora countries we can be one.
All right preparers -- with the AFL CIO thank you so much your time.
And next up we've got to.