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Author Gordon Chang discusses the struggles of the Chinese dissident and his efforts to come to America.
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That they needed some sort of medical attention -- -- is on Akron.
-- outlook when he escaped from his home he climbed over a -- he spent about 24 hours around his house he was falling down over rocks.
So we heard -- -- so he certainly needed medical attention.
-- -- Although talking in person embassy and then from -- -- war.
Well from there he spent six days and the United States negotiated a deal with China the China gave assurances Overture and safety.
And then -- -- to leave he didn't wanna come to the US and the reason there's.
That it became to the US he would be marginalized like other dissidents have been but -- he stayed in China he could be a force for change.
And so that's why he wanted to actually stay there.
Valid dumb question -- -- Pretty go to ask and on.
Why -- such a big deal.
-- I think it's a big deal because it was right on the -- you these strategic economic dialogue talks.
You know the administration had really been sort of kowtowing to China.
And this sort of put that -- the Obama administration's human rights record.
Squarely in the cross hairs and that's why it's become such a big deal I think -- -- like a tipping point you know we've had dissidents like this in the past.
And it's just at some point the united these people the United States around the world that that's all my gosh things are not getting better in China they're getting worse.
We're -- just -- cents in the -- yeah but you know the way public opinion work -- So what happens not as follows.
Well you know the Chinese Government wants this guy.
Out of Chinese that a Chinese -- and the reason is that the longer he stays there.
The more things could go wrong for the Communist Party so they're gonna let them go to the US the study.
The big issue though is his wife and kids.
And the dissidents who actually helped him to get to Beijing where -- we can do something for them.
Because you know change just one person but there are a lot of people now who have been detained because of this.
Song and and and and -- China's government.
-- -- imports are imprisoned almost all front.
Yeah I mean these guys have been beaten you know his wife was beaten for instance after -- escape from home.
Repeatedly.
She was tied up in a chair you know all these people are at risk and especially the dissidents who helped him get to Beijing.
You know that whole network has been rolled up.
Talking or Gordon -- has spent minute Tony airport and and China and Hong Kong -- and -- for.
Forbes on sentiment is still there are -- and -- -- and I were discussed are not.
Regarding China -- policy toward China.
And what trumps policy response from trying to that is allowed -- -- -- And that is -- -- the bush brings rich of those.
Questioned observation.
China demand and an apology but.
Tomorrow's but why why why -- were -- that a warmer -- goes to stick it.
Yeah would we definitely need to tell on this -- -- mean we didn't ask Chandler come into the US embassy.
You know a lot of people want to come to the US they want to leave China -- not because we're encouraging them it's because they realize how bad things are in their own country.
And the Chinese Government can acknowledge that.
Our realized Mitt Romney and probably try to politicize his dog.
-- but he -- describe that -- president Obama's.
And the administration's -- of shame.
On is that accurate and well.
Not really but it was the day you really (%expletive) poor diplomacy because you know after the State Department negotiated these -- -- sure this is for Chad.
You know we learned we need the State Department learned that China was threatening his family what the State Department should have done was to -- chance.
Look we can't you know you shouldn't leave right now because if you go you're really at risk in your families at risk.
Stay here for a little while until we can work this out.
But -- yeah I think what happened as the State Department wanted to unload this matter before these.
Strategic and economic dialogue talks on Thursday and Friday.
So they just let him go.
Now that was really bad strategic thinking and so yes it was a day of really bad diplomacy maybe not a day of shame but nonetheless it shows.
Why the Obama administration need to better China policy and white Donald Trump is 100%.
100%.
Right.
How dissolve them.
How is -- to unknown and our job.
She's doing a lot better than she did before when she came into office.
She had this statement about balancing human rights and putting them in a secondary position because we had more important things to talk to China about.
Well that was absolutely -- Wrong way to approach it because.
What makes China a human rights abuser at home makes it such a bad in -- responsible.
Power abroad.
This is indivisible you know they're -- -- at home their about a -- We need to recognize that it's the nature of the -- -- so should scheduled will leave China today.
One of those job -- collateral other.
I don't think that's gonna happen because China's gonna drag this -- didn't really make him suffer it's just that.
The city officials in China.
Maybe not evil but you know they are pretty bad and so I don't think he's gonna be on the plane you know eventually they'll let -- -- But they're gonna make this a really long been dragged out process.
And when they let him out there -- what is Salmonella -- was alright.
I hope that they will I mean that's what we're gonna be arguing for some but we should also at the same time be arguing for all of the dissidents who helped him get to Beijing.
As and that is a big story because this.
This underground railway needs to be preserved and at least we need to show that we're protecting not only -- but all the people will help them.
-- -- our to our gardens and look at material overall big picture where all.
Always wonder what what happened.
This China -- -- invented Taiwan as say they wanted to act.
I think battle rampant.
It will only happen if -- let the Chinese think they can get away with it and you know the Obama administration the Bush Administration before it would really had some pretty soft policies that were provocative in the sense that it gave the Chinese.
Does the thought that maybe we didn't have the will to protect a democracy a 23 million people we need to stay in very clear terms.
We will defend Taiwan.
Recent.
Not in those terms not recently you know the Obama administration -- the Bush Administration before it.
Signaled that it was really on Beijing's side more than on Taiwan's.
Have been a problem.
Wanna lower you're wondering -- wonder -- Final -- on.
Well you know -- We wouldn't have -- even worry about it if the Chinese new that are resolve was strong and you know when you.
Make it clear to a country like China that they can't get away with it.
They don't even try.
-- Are finally what's going on North Korea and member of the missile blow -- parliament.
-- -- bogus military parade route straight Caracas Nolan.
You know what you know trying to told them some missile launchers which is a really big deal but -- the big story that's coming up is going to be that they'll detonated nuclear weapon.
They've been excavating the earth for the tunnel where they explode these things.
And you know the United States is now leaning on China to prevent the north Koreans from doing that.
But what we really need to do is we need to lean on the north Koreans directly because we need to give them some incentives.
Not to detonate that weapon and we haven't done that yet.
Carson when things are -- forum.
-- blow themselves.
You brought up at night.
But I don't think that they will -- mean there -- -- have been maybe not spectacular successes.
But they've been pretty good they've made a lot of progress.
Possible don't name is in charge now.
Kim Jong -- and he's about 2829.
Years old and you know he's been pretty provocative scenery you launch the rockets even though everyone told them not do.
You know he's gonna detonate this nuclear weapon in all probability.
-- -- -- -- -- -- Argued maybe even worse that -- so -- but we have to wait to --
