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John Paul DeJoria on ‘Ambush Elections’ for Unions

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    Paul Mitchell CEO John Paul DeJoria on the new NLRB rules on union elections.

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Unions want -- after the senate -- -- knocked down -- rule that'll help amount Republicans on enabled us watch the national labor relations board's new regulation that enables the use of form more quickly.

Critics -- an ambush elections and they can't get on Monday -- next guest says they're very bad for business billionaire investor.

It's -- co-founder John -- -- joining us now in this exclusive chat John good to have you back.

OK my pleasure -- always nice to -- -- -- show here sir Tom what do you make of what's happening here.

Where.

Come Monday.

It is going to be a whole new working world and and may be one where unions have a decided advantage what -- Well I think you have to look at it two ways a couple of -- companies are unionized.

And a couple of art let me give an example John Paul Mitchell systems.

-- in Africa treating orphans there are trying to reorganize them.

A union comes and puts up signs saying -- to -- within a couple of weeks to become unionized I'm in the middle of Africa.

I can't give back in two weeks all the suddenly put the -- a vote for it.

And the unions that -- I have to come over and tell everybody the majority of you are losing a lot of your -- -- -- pay even more the union pays a near fringe benefits.

Far exceed -- on the other side.

Let's say in Mexico patron of Mexico is unionized.

However we give our people more than they usually you can gives without.

In other words the fairness says.

Not trying to strong arm people the -- do something or not trying to say that if you don't join the union and we are unionized you don't have a job.

That's not the American way I don't think it's fair -- all.

I think what we're really talking about is pure politics here one political group of course wants support the unions.

And there's probably some great things that the unions are thinking about that are may be good thoughts but they're doing at the wrong way.

However a political group will support them because their support -- political group with money and votes on the other side.

The other group may be isn't so which are really looking -- is politics playing its politics.

If they want to think about what what's best for America.

Jobs and the American people they say what are we -- to create more jobs.

Not force more people to do things so they will not create more jobs because something went against them but yeah.

Not about creating more jobs and there's about.

-- where you know right.

Yeah exactly yeah but if you create more union jobs.

People may wanna go elsewhere I was on the creative coalition for a couple years has her spokesperson.

To try and tell people in Hollywood and other places.

Why -- moving jobs are leaving America while they're going to Canada.

And it's because for example in one union job you have yourself approximately.

One hour -- that you have to.

-- address somebody okay and then all of a sudden you turn around.

And they -- will really got to -- for only five minutes because that's what the union requires.

So -- have taken 100 people.

People now go to -- do the same movie was seventy people sort of a hundred people.

And all of a sudden we lost money union people aren't being -- a little community is not making any money whatsoever.

And this is not a good thing so what you've got to look at is.

Unions there's a lot of good things are all about.

But in many cases unions don't create a lot of new jobs since because of some of the requirements we lose jobs elsewhere and that's not right -- I was really on an annual revenue growth cohesiveness not INS are you saying -- but I talked to senator -- -- earlier he was one of the Republican -- thirds of this plan to counter.

What the National Labor Relations Board is joint.

It fell about 45 votes but it certainly didn't get a majority in that chamber and an exit -- -- democratic chambers so it it went down to defeat.

But one thing visible in the eighty Euro over worrying about this and maybe to a degree you weren't you and here's my crackpot theory.

That you -- should be careful what they wish for.

Because speed doesn't necessarily mean a quicker vote fort union it'd -- units and it actually might go against -- words.

People who might be satisfied.

With the job that they have or feeling secure today have a job.

What would say not don't upset the apple cart now we're not gonna -- around sixty.

Yeah you're right they can be a two way street there's no question I just think more and more so people forcing people -- do things.

People should talk to one another to trying to get a result opposed to we're gonna force you to do this you start forcing people they don't like -- -- -- or they're gonna take their business elsewhere but guys.

You don't have to worry right -- because it into your -- you know you people -- top wage or something that is appear to what you need jobs could -- They're not compelled isn't the issue more.

Those institutions that do not.

You know I don't know and the reason I don't know as I presented to a mayor in Los Angeles a few years ago.

How they can overcome some of their budget deficits part of what we talked about was -- unions the unions product is people.

If they have less people on the pride in their unions they have less product they're selling.

If they don't grow they have less product so the union as a business looks that.

How many more people we can get and how do we get that but you brought -- very good point.

If you have a very short voting.

Process the very short period of time -- Then perhaps the union could lose that vote entirely and keep on trying and trying and trying again it inspected just being fair people got to -- share with one another and when you push it too much of me to -- laws -- regulate too much.

And industry people go elsewhere.

-- that's not good for America.

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