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Got two major scandals that are -- our society right now -- the Secret Service prostitution scandal and the GSA spending spree.
-- both have a lot to do with money but which one is a more serious moral problem.
Joining us now in a very clear answer is frequent Varney and company yes rabbi Brad push field rally welcomed the program morning economy spell a sound again great gross overspending mockery of -- by -- by the GSA.
Dollars a prostitution scandal involving the Secret Service and I think also undermine the security of the president United States.
Rabbi which is the great -- moral seen if -- -- put it like that well I don't know.
Score the -- factor -- terms -- abuse of the public the first one is far worse it seems to me what happened to the GSA was an abuse of public trust clearance and we'll.
You take other people's money.
He spent it on yourself.
For things you know you shouldn't be doing where you should know you shouldn't be doing either way you have a serious problem what happened with the Secret Service was a betrayal of public image.
If it turns out -- that they didn't do anything to compromise the president's security -- we can move it into the first column.
But for the time being especially given people's inability to trust government to accomplish anything efficiently.
As a matter of betrayal of public trust the GSA sadly wins.
We go to the other -- of the -- again back to the the Secret Service.
The fact that they -- allegedly consulted with prostitutes.
Loss involved in planning the security the president United States that is a breach of presidential security -- and of itself because he opened up the president.
To -- blog bribery blackmail by the Secret Service open double 'cause windows of information into the presidency the -- -- the immoral acts is not so much going with a prostitute and opening up the president to -- security.
Well I think it's certainly right about that and I want to be clear I'm not defending prostitute just -- and I don't think you are -- enough but as a matter of public.
Ethics there's no question breaching the pub present security far worse if it turns out.
That any of those things happen as I said I would move it over.
But I think it's really important to clarify that -- judge things based on what has happened not what might have happened and given that we know what happened over -- GSA.
We know that you stand five times or your budgeted for we know that you spend 3000 dollars a person for a couple of days in Las Vegas -- -- giving away hotel rooms.
-- the economy there is so bad you can stay for free.
And they are blowing -- -- today over 3648.
That is such a betrayal of public trust its not about the spending it's about simply sending one more message the government can't get done.
What people think it needs to get done we believe in big government or small government have to trust -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Is bad but it doesn't have the same time I think it's exactly right we can -- -- about what happened with.
Secret Service but it's a matter of ethics in the public's fear there's no question GSA problem -- us and I think it's -- we don't talk about it.
-- if we take it seriously and has implications for government across the board but you know we do talk about it.
We do investigate it we didn't do we do make judgments openly in -- media about this and I think that makes America more of a mobile based society because we are an open society not a no question that are all right now did not not that it's actually correct the test of this will be.
Now what they did either in Las Vegas or Hawaii or even down South America.
Will be the extent to which the American public -- since -- moving forward we do better that's the real test of the FX.
I want -- scandal you think it's gonna show that there's a more prevalent problem you know is the GS taking gonna show that this -- been going on for that forever and ever -- we look at the prostitution scandal and -- the Secret Service has been doing this forever.
I really hope that the Secret Service is not been doing this forever and I tend to suspect what's been going on at the GSA.
It's been going out the -- not just of the GSA for a long time.
But across the board for a long time.
I don't think that means it's purposeful I don't think the government employees willfully set out to misuse funds.
I simply think that massive bureaucracies you need a culture of accountability that we don't yet have rabbi Brad -- yields thanks for joining us as appreciate it thank you put could be.