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The Environmental Protection Agency has been on the warpath against American energy producers.
Pushing -- new rules that will -- coal plants regulate carbon dioxide emissions which remember we humans exhale with every breath.
Is the EPA out of control joining me now can valley -- Republican attorney general.
Welcome back to the show great to see you.
Let's start with EPA I mean are they out of control and are they could become a central part of this reelection campaign you think it's going to be a big debate.
Yes and yes is a reason I've taken to calling it the employment prevention agency because they're so good at that.
And when you look at.
The extremely thin basis on which.
Really -- excuses.
-- which they've been promulgating some of their propose regulations.
He noted the targeting of -- -- in Virginia.
We have part of appellation of the poorest part of America where the main and in some parts of it only industry is coal mining.
And they're being targeted they've cross hairs across their back.
Yeah let's talk about one specific project in -- hundred Virginia.
That's -- Old Dominion -- company was gonna build up perhaps there and they've abandoned those plans because the EPA rules are so expensive to implement.
He is this is this the right move look the president wants to get rid of coal is this a right way to go about it.
-- he was very clear about that when campaigning sure you can build you can build a coal plant you're just gonna go bankrupt.
I'm at least he's you know there's one campaign promise he's keeping.
And and -- that had to pull the plug on that plan.
Supplies almost all of the co ops in Virginia so these -- the little outfits that provide power all around Virginia.
It's very clear that these rules are.
And essentially taking people away from coal.
And now this is also happening let's be fair to the economics of the situation at a time when natural gas is dropping in price and natural gas is getting more and more competitive.
But we are the Saudi Arabia of coal you just walk through the oil reserves and how the president has tried to mislead people -- some of the statements in that respect.
But in the area of coal.
You know we are in an even stronger position -- we are in with other resources natural gas and and oil well yeah where you we're cutting them were being cut off from that by Wright president and the EPA.
You bring up but natural gas fracking is a big conversation going on right now -- PI came out with rules for fracking.
And -- -- the Wall Street Journal today coming out and saying -- those rules were much easier than we anticipated.
Is this election year -- it maybe the EPA is trying to soften its image a little bit.
That there has been some evidence of that during the election year.
I think I think that unfortunately they've conditioned us to expect Armageddon every time they issue new rules.
That when it is and you know it doesn't entirely and an industry as they're trying to do now with coal.
We look at it is a form of good news that we need it when he did not allow ourselves to be condition of that way.
By the EPA we need to return the entire policy discussion to one of balance.
Between environmental stewardship on one hand and economic opportunity on the other and remember opportunity.
Is this liberty in the economy.
It is -- kind of freedom that makes America special makes it unique.
And it's being suffocated by the across the board regulatory burdens the EPA's -- and one last as well let me make one last point.
And -- that is one that people forget all the time the people hurt first by this kind of regulatory onslaught.
Are the pour their -- first and worst because they lose more opportunities than everybody else.
I wanna change gears here for a second -- -- -- -- regulation I wanna talk about taxation.
Gonna talk about Obama -- the president now famously.
Coming out attacking the Supreme Court you know what looked like I'm very serious conversation about ending the individual mandate earlier this month.
What did you make of its common.
Well first of all just as an American.
I was appalled.
That president of the United States would attack the court.
In such a ways to make it very clear what he was trying to do is intimidate them and affected the decision they're gonna make.
On the health care bill that was appalling I mean we all have some Supreme Court decision or five.
That we would like to have gone the other way and we we give our reasons we talk about that after the fact but as a -- -- any case and that's what he is.
He is also singularly a -- equal branch of government.
To attack the court the way he did was to put it mildly highly inappropriate I think the other thing he's doing with that attack.
Is he's preparing the battlefield he is ready to start kicking the court around.
During the political campaign into the fall if he loses this case and he obviously.
Thinks he's going to lose I don't want to predict too much but.
But certainly some of the discussion in the courtroom.
When against them if -- to draw conclusions from that I've been a litigator for awhile and you know eat this sign -- -- there -- and aren't always reflected in the order.
It ads frankly hard to understand what they're gonna do next but the reality is that they already know because they've really taken the vote in the and we have to wait till June well -- -- Can I wish him more time to talk.
There's a lot of stuff to go lower including your race for the -- the governor of Virginia you gotta come back sometime soon and will extend the conversation thank you glad to do.
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