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FNC senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano on whether there is enough evidence for criminal charges in the GSA spending scandal.
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Senate Democrats taking their turn to bash the GSA holding their own hearing on the government spending nearly a million dollars.
The Vegas vacation this is Congress's third panel on the scandal in three days.
So how far we've heard about waste bribery kickbacks and theft how much longer before the guilty are behind bars joining me now Fox News senior -- Judicial analyst judge Andrew the pilots have now predict have you back on the show with you my friend our -- so if somebody can go to jail on well.
And order for that to happen -- government has to decide to prosecute so the president's attorney general has to a prosecute an appointee of the president.
For doing.
And the ferries behavior about which somebody in the White House according to congress -- -- -- probably knew before during and after it was done I mean.
Stated differently the stuff has been going on for a long time congressman mica says the -- has provided -- here.
It's a little bit -- -- on that that because add -- -- on F and C earlier today here's how he put it.
They conference took place and October of 2010.
And then the whistle blower -- for the NIG investigation a month later.
It was reported back in May of 2011.
That what was going on and and that was enough time to investigate.
And then there will White House this -- the beginning of June.
-- is the president covering up here what's going well I think the president has and how political potato on -- -- what we thought two weeks ago.
Was a bunch of federal workers clowning around and letting loose in the noncriminal.
Although ridiculous way but it's Las Vegas what the -- Now appears as though it was the inappropriate use of government funds actually theft of government funds.
To provide great luxuries to people weren't entitled to them it appears no one's been charged it appears.
The head of the GSA.
Flew to Honolulu for 45 minute ribbon cutting in front of the news federal building area pricing at airports in three weeks -- for seventeen days with his wife.
At the government's expense is that illegally -- Yes it is illegal and yes it is criminal and the level of the charge depends on how much money was taken from the government.
And conferred upon himself and his wife.
But but at a general rule of thumb for something like this is somewhere between five and ten years if if our a if a -- FAA trip like this probably cost about five or 101000 dollars and obviously was not authorized he authorized -- himself but he didn't have the power to do that.
Well point out.
They call at the matrix right.
Because no way this whole agency is -- Byzantine he actually.
His reporting he reported to different boxes.
Very confusing how things were laid out.
And this is the agency whose job it is to conserve the federal assets if you're a judge in a federal courthouse and the window breaks on the -- doesn't work.
You -- all the GSA.
They own the building they maintain the building they manage the build -- our cash with which to do -- they're supposed to spend a proper.
All right so I fun part of this that I know you may or may not be familiar on the idea of the commemorative key points out.
Apparently the GSA you couldn't feed people -- -- I didn't have that and lets you gave them these awards these coins take a look at these numbers.
-- can -- commemorative coins cost about 6000 bucks to make.
But the advanced cost 31000.
Dollars.
Obviously this is extravagance extravaganza.
Is bad judgment.
Taking yourself and your wife and a seventeen day vacation at the government expense in order to perform a 45 minutes worth of duty.
It's criminal.
-- arguably think that's about right we don't know all the facts yet but on the basis of what we know it certainly appears this enough with which to charge him and others.
For the misuse of taxpayer for.
I wanna get you to respond to something Bryant Miller had to say so that we just alluded -- listen -- this.
We found that there were about a 115.
IPods -- seen.
Apple provided us with some of the addresses were iTunes for being downloaded.
And -- -- one of the iPods was located in mr.
-- these personal.
Possession.
The subpoena from apple told us that his daughter had been downloading iTunes.
So this stuff.
It was supposed to be an award to GSA employees.
Step was taken.
In in fact obviously by nearly according to what Miller says here.
That come -- that's -- -- legal right.
On the break point and in the federal laws that thousand dollars if what was taken in goods.
And services exceeded a thousand it's an indictment it's a -- you're talking five or ten years if it was under a thousand you're talking a slap on the rest probably no jail time but certainly.
Termination from his job and perhaps loss of his attention that benefits this has all the earmarks of being significantly.
North of a thousand.
Well I got to tell you have of the people that are talking in front of these committees testifying.
And they're all on administratively -- most of them are not even working right now to be -- to see how this turns out yes and they'll quite properly assert their fifth amendment rights not to answer I mean they're not gonna tell their -- what they did not to have that Reagan Democrats the boxes yes we -- the boxes they gotta -- that's what they work for -- we work for them.
