Has “MoneyBall” Made Teams Better?
Radio host Chris Russo debates the numbers behind “MoneyBall”.
- Duration 6:20
- Date Apr 16, 2012
Radio host Chris Russo debates the numbers behind “MoneyBall”.
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Moment that you know some of the ideas.
From money ball traditional -- wasn't working judging players based on how how tall they were how fast they they ran.
That was inefficient you -- look to performance on the field but how do you judge that.
Well you five new metrics that that better tell player story.
And sometimes those are undervalued by the market that's the real point how money ball for hitters in terms of metrics the standard and always been batting average how often you get ahead.
That was then replaced by OP yes -- you get that by adding up.
On base percentage and slugging percentage so basically talking about a player who gets on base a lot and when they do hit the ball they hit for power.
Simple -- that.
For -- winds always the gold standard -- games did you went.
But that's largely a -- -- not an individual stats so.
We have an example this is interest and we have an example how quickly and drastically to change the thinking about the game really changed on this topic.
The baseball writers gave the American League Cy Young award that year to -- Cologne.
Now these -- the writers the ones are supposed to follow the -- the closest.
121 -- Johan Santana.
Sixty -- but by nearly every other measure all once ERA strikeouts new ones that have come in fit war all this kind of thing.
He was better he was a lot better so then you fast forward.
To 2000 -- -- -- about the F 21 wins and Felix the king filtered and -- thirteen wins only but again he was better than Tibet -- Just about every other step.
Now this time many of those same writers got it wrong we would argue no five they got it right.
This time they gave her -- -- is the awards -- just five years but that's a major shift in the way people think.
About the game.
But not everybody's convinced about money -- the serious XM radio host Chris -- the mad dog he has his doubts.
We are about decade out from this money ball book we've had the movie -- -- everything else since -- since that everybody's playing this game now.
This and I love the movie Brad -- and -- job why they -- get a more we have -- a B and I have no idea.
And that money ball period they want one playoff game now what'd they want one -- came it was what about the starting pitching anyway and the that a deal -- think -- -- -- I think that I was the biggest jump in whatever way baseball knows if it's about the starting pitchers that Hudson -- you don't and Molder.
Lot of home and -- picks lot of them knew a lot of teams you don't get those guys were are right that's -- the -- success.
A couple of things they're number one Billy -- you know need to continue to get some credit he's the guy he's the idea.
To bring in the likes of the Zito and Mulder mean you can't -- you know little radio -- those pictures are good pictures showing a high picks a new draft.
Everybody what about -- those guys that that should have the second thing on the post season.
The money ball philosophy on all this is hey if you have a great team yet you can get to the post he's not increase your odds.
But once you get there it's a crap shoot anybody can they won't -- and nodding close out games can you win one policies as far as that -- the twins they're glued to holdings the Yankees have moved slowly into the Red Sox.
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That the what do you think that the idea that more people are using advanced metrics that are using all these stats and using things -- being -- 101520 years ago I.
Think there is some element of that though James obviously -- -- gonna do that you but it still comes out of pension and -- If you have the big pitching and you have a couple of big sluggers.
You're gonna be -- pretty -- walk run out of Gaza comes running athletic -- you've noticed that teams have gotten away from sign that older freeagent.
Who is a crapshoot and instead of invested their money -- younger guy who they know accept the angels who gave were also the money but most of finger -- more younger.
Not one again well the big contract and a guy wears out his mid thirties.
What do you take out that's it because that's -- really actually financial question right you have a young -- you know Matt -- with the -- or somebody and you -- yourself but the -- did with Japanese -- ominous sign this guy up for the long term he you know we can probably save some money.
Or you go after approvals what did you think of the pool still the volatility.
Up Prince Fielder deal -- F post that deal was done because I got -- about fox television money coming company that's selling what people are saying he's trying to intrude and at dodger market.
I think he knew that the Dodgers -- -- startling new ownership so -- little nervous.
-- -- -- -- You don't want to be sure right because it -- two years of age and -- victim Martinez he wants to win he's older he's got money in my so you're saying he's got nine your contract and he doesn't care how he's gonna be there anyway yeah the end of anybody wants to -- I think they should with each freeagent there's a little.
You can look at each team with a free agency where you go the reds got all this money with free agent with the revenue sharing for years and years and years.
And I got -- -- they saw the asking price was four obviously people like fielder and clauses that.
Look at the -- motto is know about the Dodgers that's what the Phillies got an issue right now is evident -- -- -- that they don't.
The -- at magic has got a lot assigned him at the end of -- -- -- some Southern California -- You television that's what that deal was all about -- so let me ask about this final -- two billion dollar team in Los Angeles that's a TV deal they're banking on it.
200 million dollar first -- we always there already talked about that there's three of them what do you make all these numbers in baseball these days pretty good business at the end of the.
-- diet unless and it's a different kind of sports and football that's got the national television package there was spread they have to spend their money league baseball it's a little different because each market's you know -- independent and everybody else now the Yankees and Red Sox Dodgers they can get certain -- -- television.
While Milwaukee can't so in -- there is what I have have not always will be that -- baseball.
-- the national TV money is not does he quite like it doesn't -- it like doesn't football but baseball is healthy -- you know I mean I think most that came today while.
T did basing -- thing about television and baseball he gives them a 169.
To program every day they can put something on their channel every day.
For six months -- can't do that the games on Sundays on CBS NBC and fox.
Basketball Magnus he's a nobody cares except -- -- Baseball -- you programming.
It's cheap programming that's -- these big deals have been coming down without -- to rockets against.