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That being said let's talk more about what's going out hackers out there in the -- David I tells with a -- -- CEO of immunity ink.
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Look this incident happening more money added and I just -- up different instances where our credit cards.
Some -- -- we got issued new ones like you know.
-- I get the bigger and or the more we do things technologically even more risky cake.
Well I think there's there's something very strange about us feeling that our credit card numbers or private.
I mean keep mind you gave your credit card number out there who knows how many people over the course -- day and the bank.
And you should pretty much assume that everybody has your credit card number it's like your Social Security number.
You know -- -- information about yourself like your face your fingerprints these are really not that secret.
And what you see coming down the wire.
Is technological improvements like Google wallet and some of the other payment systems that work on your phone.
Where every transaction is essentially signed digitally so they can't replay of the transactions the -- money by taking one single number.
So -- -- you mean you are you are.
Known as an ethical hacker what does that mean actually.
While the the phrase ethical means that I'm not out -- -- credit -- okay but generally means that -- I'm paid to do things for for financial institutions.
For example I probably help protect some of the banks that.
You know you do your business with on a daily basis and there's a huge industry people out there doing that.
Okay so am.
-- security consultants businesses like yours are on the rise because this is a concern for a lot of people.
So I agree with you we give our credit card information out very freely these days I'd file my taxes online there's a lot of their message out there OK right I get it.
But at the same time.
I think there's an expectation that it's -- Well let me let me worry you with something that's probably more interest thing back in -- sense that you're comfortable with your credit card number being out there but.
What if they happened to global payments and -- that taking the credit card numbers they simply recorded every transaction that you had ever done.
And it was available on Google or something else from some Russian website.
So any time anyone talk to you they could just do you up and say hey you know as the last Thursday you buy yourself a new suit.
And these things are all just that the easiest taking the credit card numbers and you should pretty much assume that both are being done.
I think I say you know we should -- -- -- being -- at some point.
Well your credit every -- credit card probably has already been -- and that's that's the sort of you know.
Good news of the story in the sense that.
For global payments they're one of many write the the heartland happen happen in 2008 with a hundred times this size in terms of their data in a number of credit cards that -- -- So you know often.
It's easiest to just think that this is -- happen to you and the question is are you for insured from damage in this case you are.
But there's a reputation on -- I think to normal consumers.
Know we we feel like we should have privacy and we really -- Yeah and here's another payment processors processors in particular are really prime target for hackers why is it easy to get -- -- Places like heartland up payment systems in global payments they that we were just talking about is it easy to hack into them.
It is and it's really less than ten million dollars to break and almost any corporation.
And -- view as middle man and -- credit card system.
Have more than ten million dollars worth of stuff on your systems and likely someone's trying to break into your take it.
And of course.
You know it's not just the big -- it's also the retailers if you look at the things that happened to Best Buy.
And -- -- -- you know Sony and some of the other big you know big retailers -- -- this information themselves.
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