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-- the obamacare contraception mandate still has many Americans feel meaning questioning what's going on that.
Catholic Church was the first group to oppose it because it would they would be forced to provide free birth control to their employees which goes against their religion.
Then Georgetown law students and reflect changed the debate from a religious -- -- issue in to a women's issue when she said many students cannot afford to pay for their birth control.
We talked about this on the radio show and Patricia from -- and -- California.
At a very strong reaction in Patricia is our -- of the week.
Why are men what would you say we were -- and some -- -- -- -- -- What I wanted to shut them and I think you know I want the -- Yeah.
What do you think I'm -- chip away at -- -- -- back and now.
As a -- -- responsible mail I guess while I've got to defend myself what I've got a couple ladies here to help -- -- looking data from their side of the IL.
Joining me -- news -- columnist and author about numbered.
Chronicles of a Manhattan conservatives added I have -- And former president of women's media center and Fox News contributor should move Green.
And -- -- let's start with you because I I truly do want to know.
Why is it free why I mean why would Donald Trump's wife get free contraception under this plan.
Well Tom first thing we agree that birth control shouldn't actually just be a woman's issue because.
Clearly men participate in the acts.
And trying to stick to find birth control is not being.
Could be critical health care.
It is something that really is a rollback in reproductive rights that.
That is what is leading to I think a lot of that passion and anger that's a -- have towards you Tom.
Because men are trying to take away something that is of vital health care something that women need across the.
Our country I'm an -- -- -- probably take 700 dollars a a year I am not trying to take away viable healthcare I'm not trying to take away contraceptives.
I just don't know why I should pay for your contraceptives if you have the money.
We have we the -- women in poverty are covered by Medicaid women who have been insurance are covered by insurance.
I know there's a working GAAP and probably law students might -- for a fall into that gap but.
I don't know why we have this broad everybody must get three -- You know what I love is that a woman just called you irresponsible on the radio and it's probably a woman who didn't -- -- pay for her own birth control CBI union.
Let's face it this is a distraction there is no war on women happening from the right this is a distraction because Barack Obama can't talk about policy he can't talk about the fact that.
Women included as well as men and everyone else.
Doesn't like what he's doing they oppose obamacare and they oppose gas price increases they oppose everything he's doing so they have to try to shift the focus and -- Hey you know want this is a war on women will guess what Obama's approval ratings with women are going down.
Well they -- -- degree of -- let this thing hasn't changed because they botched it with the Catholic teachers so badly so it's so they've made the women's -- -- also -- women are supporting opt outs and New York Times poll recently shall there women are supporting employers who want to opt out of this health -- -- this contraception.
Provision they're supporting religious freedom they are completely opposed to what the Obama irritation of cleaning they support so and.
Joseph -- so let's get back to this business about again white contraceptive.
Has to be free -- and this is from this new rule -- just came out this past week.
From HHS saying that this has got to be free in this gotta be issued to every -- by every insurance policy to everybody.
Just contraceptives for women I'm still stymied -- why they have to be free for everybody.
It's an important preventative service and let's just look at the facts here -- time.
Health insurers know that plans that cover contraceptives.
Are actually cheaper than plans that don't.
And the reality of this war on women that is happening eight -- it's a real for women on the ground across the country because.
Opposition to the affordable health care act opposition to Obama care as many people went to college is an attack on women's health.
Before our Obama care health insurers could charge women 50% more than they did for men.
Fate would have preexisting also knows how so well under.
Are you tell you about -- best.
Tiny tubes is an end date it is more of us as surgery of -- sect -- kind of an outpatient thing is out water.
Now -- -- I'm talking about.
Premiums premiums in many cases for women -- when they used to hire more than minimum floor at a look at infantile.
Women and women -- make sure that they're failing members go to the doctor and they take care of their husbands and they what they're behind.
And many tell us what you know the last one -- that household to go -- used.
Go and be able to sit down have a conversation with -- doctor.
That is now covered under the Obama care law.
For many cases women -- our preexisting condition just for being a woman for having as C section for being the victim of -- domestic violence.
This is a program that women are going to be up in arms as Republicans continued to try to take it away.
-- and let me ask you question -- should condoms be free should everything be free where do we draw the line here.
This is not an attack against women this is an attack against mandates.
This is an attack against government telling private -- -- private institutions religious institutions.
Whoever what they do in don't need to cover should everything be for.
So the -- should your employer.
Be able to tell you.
If you should be allowed to have a pap smear that's the blood rubio -- not what's had to laugh out an employer to say.
All I have a personal belief that goes against this health care service and so -- what my employees testing is that not gonna happen and what everyone who's defending Obama care.
Is is defending something that's going to lead to health care rationing that's going to lead to women not going to be able to get the test that they need.
Not going to be able to go in and have these basic service is not going to have government bureaucrats and independent payment advisory board coming in and telling you.
This is a grade C illness not a great a illness so -- him.
We're not quite a -- to my concern is that they're just now starting to write the rules and I don't know what else is gonna be free but at least.
We got both of you ladies to when you were very kind to me is also -- -- time to get as I want.
Things can just say one thing here when that they'll Republicans turned around during the general with their -- gets candidate.
And try to -- you know come back to whenever I think there's going to be one thing we're gonna say to them and Travis -- said it best.
Here's a quarter call someone who cares what we're done with that.
We're done with the rollback in our reproductive right well gain on the women vote guarantee the Republican guys I know like women but it.
It will three dead and I -- thing.