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Zuhdi Jasser of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy on the growing tension in the Middle East.
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-- -- -- -- -- Iran now says it is willing to talk about its nuclear program.
Is that a serious attempt at negotiation is -- -- stalling tactic joining us now is actually.
Gaza City welcome to the program always good to have you with -- against -- thank you.
I don't think they Easter do you think that Iran would actually negotiate.
Away its nuclear program.
At the end at the other -- I don't think so Stuart I think this is -- buying them time but it also buys us time I think the last option obviously the military option.
But we don't want to take that off the table I think as long as they know.
That the military options on the table and it's not being taken off.
That'll bring them -- negotiation table allow us to at least try to it.
-- -- -- -- Figure out what their capacity really is and also allows us to look at containment remember.
What we have to focus on is containment of Iran.
The Syria what's happening in -- is proving to be a proxy war and right now there's only been one side of that which is Russian and Iranian armaments.
Our -- the Asad regime and we've sort of been left out of that and that -- hearings that McCain hopefully will up look at it differ.
I just zero rights and again on Iran.
Can you say that some of that won't negotiate a way that nuclear program is a buying stalling tactic -- -- let's suppose that sanctions really do bites.
An Iranian economy collapses that's a possibility.
Even if it does collapse will be Iranians get resolved their nuclear program.
Well right now as you and I spoke up previously the hardliners have after the recent election last week hardliners -- -- controlling the legislature.
So the new ones in the position of power kitty will not.
But if the Iranian economy collapses -- becomes a game changer in Iran.
Where the Green revolution will be able to start.
Pushing for more popular gun control start to actually let the air spring now the Iranian -- take that what it it would have gained in 2009.
And that's how you ultimately bring about regime change and bring back democracy to a society now that is just riddled with theocracy in autocracy.
And and the hardliners basically been in control -- it's more of a long term vision.
The video up to that point oh wouldn't that also backfire couldn't in the the mall -- it and -- -- Johnson listened.
This is the west they've crippled our economy could not actually play into the hands if their economy gets weaker.
Well -- path we will never be clean it'll be messy.
But at the end of the day if we have a long term vision for what we want in the Middle East.
Which is to stop not only the external Cold War against the radicals that view the west is our enemy.
But internally between Iran vs Saudi Arabia Iran vs Turkey and the Arab countries we have to have a vision to where we ultimately bring -- regime change.
Any other option to respond to what you just said would be appeasement would be allowing them to feel that.
We are gonna be a Paper tiger not really mean what we say -- -- what we mean and any sort of abandoned containment and this sort of let them spread and had gem and I as the Middle East through Syria and then -- at eleven on so you know we we can't.
We have to pick which option is the least -- worrisome.
And a long term option that stabilizes.
And helps the Green revolution takeover may be messy upfront but long term I think it's the only option.
Doctors -- -- yesterday you appeared at a rally in supports in support of the New York police department the NYPD have been criticized for its program of surveillance of Muslims.
We want to show our viewers what you said of that rally yesterday -- roll -- place.
We are not here.
To criticize the NYPD.
But rather to thank them for doing a lot of the work that we as -- -- should be doing which is monitoring extremism.
Following extremism and helping counted ideologies that create radicalization and our communities.
I have to say doctor -- says that some we've not if I'm expressed an opinion.
We have not heard enough of this quite frankly and I think you probably agree.
Absolutely and that's why you know that the NYPD has been taking up pummeling unfairly by at 8 PM in New York Times and a lot of the -- they really use the Muslim issue as a partisan.
Bickering back and forth.
And I think what we saw yesterday was also a game changer domestically that these Islamist grievance groups like the -- on American Islamic relations is -- South America.
Which are really part of the Muslim Brotherhood political network in the west.
-- really don't speak for all Muslims America saw yesterday over twenty organizations represented.
Including women's rights organization -- the -- running women and others stand up and say you know.
Yes we're in -- week we want to protect our civil liberties we're not saying the police should ever violator civil liberties but be fair.
What they're doing is monitoring in the public -- monitoring organizations like the most of student association that have over thirteen terrorists that have been identified and arrested.
Not to mention that we have a problem and we have over 80% of the terrorists coming from.
One point 5% of the population.
If we stop complaining and I'll play the most important message Stuart is that.
If -- media exaggerates.
And and makes it seem like Muslims are under siege that actually serves to radicalize -- community more.
And the more Americans and Muslims can see Muslims defending our police forces.
Very different from an autocracy like Iran or Syria and saying that they are the brave NYPD is working against radicals -- our community.
That will.
That was seen yesterday and had never been really covered as much as it was yesterday to doctors in.
