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Congressman Ron Paul argues that the best defense is an austere defense.
Because the profligate spending by the military industrial complex actually endangers our national security.
That's leading to tough questions for Mitt Romney who would leave his defense policy up to the generals.
That -- Ron Paul supporter and -- a whole lot of sat here this time winner in the political process.
Com if you win the nomination how do you plan on getting us on board we deal in convincing us that you and Obama are just different sides of the same point.
Well Obama represents a very different direction for America.
I hope you understand that that he and I would take America very different places my view is that we have to have the strongest military in the world to protect us from the rest -- -- Spotted -- an answer there but our next guest says it's not Romney rather A president Ron Paul who as the best plan.
For keeping our military the most powerful in the world.
Retired colonel and freedom watch regular Douglas Macgregor joins us now -- -- always a pleasure welcome back here.
By George can you make the case for us please -- as to why -- leaner military anymore or steer military budget.
Actually will enhance our defenses.
Around the world.
Well first of -- Ron Paul is pointed out we do need to scale back or overseas footprint.
Our presence in many parts of the world -- days is actually a catalyst for conflict we're not cultivating peaceful conditions in many cases were doing the opposite.
The other thing is we're relieving lots of powerful nation states from Germany to Japan of the obligation to pay for their own defenses because we're doing it for them.
As soon as we stop doing that they'll Begin to step up and expand the money and the resources -- defend themselves.
But here's something else is very important when you listen to the claims that are made by the other candidates the only -- is in touch with reality.
Is Ron Paul that is we simply don't have the money.
We're headed into a very serious financial crisis in the future we can't afford these grandiose schemes of mr.
Romney for 450 ships.
We can't afford the large forces committed to another war as mr.
Santorum would like to do with Iran those kinds of those statements are not only.
Inaccurate they're possibly predict.
-- take take off if you would your military hat.
And put on your professorial hat as the political scientists that you war.
Does the government scare us into thinking that by spending more money.
We're actually going to be safer stated differently -- the crowd's roar at these debates.
When Santorum and Gingrich and Romney say I want to spend more I wanna buy more I wanna build more.
Well first of all their lots of good patriotic Americans who want to equate.
Military spending spending billions of dollars on things undefined things.
With the peace and security they also equated with patriotism.
So this is red meat for those people the other problem is it for most Americans judge.
War is something that happens on someone else's soil in someone else's country.
They don't think of war in the same terms as European generations to you've experienced war in their own soil.
That's a serious mistake because quite frankly is Ron -- was pointed out increasingly.
We're inviting war to the United States with our behavior what would -- -- Defense Secretary McGregor.
Advise a president Paul.
Would be the first thing to do right after inauguration.
Well the first thing is to make it clear that we are first and foremost of necessity for reasons of commerce.
Primarily in aerospace -- a maritime power we are not a global land power nor do we need to be.
And then secondly I would absolutely not leave the decision regarding cuts up to any of the generals of the admirals.
If you look at what the army is now planning to do -- are about to throw 80000 soldiers onto the street.
And keep all of the generals and all of the headquarters -- you're gonna end up -- a a ratio of about one general for every three or 400 men.
Whereas during World War II we had one general for every five or 6000 got and we were in a real war against a real -- -- McGregor always a pleasure come back again soon thanks for joining us thank you judge the president is in full.
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