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Sen. Rand Paul, (R-Ky.), joins the Judge after he says he was detained at the airport in Nashville for refusing a pat-down.
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- Date Jan 23, 2012
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Sen. Rand Paul, (R-Ky.), joins the Judge after he says he was detained at the airport in Nashville for refusing a pat-down.
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Must've been the steel in his spine.
That set off a screening device at Nashville airport this afternoon -- our next guest would not submit to a full body pat down.
According to cousin -- TSA goons who have yet to catch a single terrorist who ordered him to do so.
This United States senators stood his ground and was grounded for his efforts.
Here to tell his side of the story is Kentucky Republican senator.
Ran for you know we book -- to be on the show senator Paulson spoke with actor father's political.
Campaign and then this happened what happened to this morning in Nashville.
-- you know -- I woke up this morning I hadn't intended on anything like this happening I got to the airport early.
Went through the screener like I always do and it said something's gone off on your knee.
And I said well here's my pants like -- rolled it up and pull my socks down I said there's nothing there.
And they said well we don't really care to look at your land again I said well.
You know do you care whether something's there there's nothing there they said no we need to do a pat down and I said well one -- walk through the -- again.
I was in the airport three days ago and they let me walk through the screener.
And they said no they refused and -- was detained in a cubicle.
They say -- wasn't detained but they told that -- leave the cubicle when I tried to -- I was ushered back into the cubicle so I kind of felt like I was being detained.
And then I tried to use my phone to contact my office without speaking to right to life march this afternoon of 200000 people is a big deal.
-- -- love office no I was being detained.
And they told me that now I would have to have a full body search because I touched by telephone men that was against the rules for me to touch any of my belongings.
And and how does this and you have estimated to -- your tenure there now.
Well interestingly after about an hour and a half of this after not getting on the plane after trying to talk to the head of TSA to find out what their rules are.
Because one -- -- allowed to go back to the screener in this week I'm not.
After her about an hour and a half of that they let me walk back through the -- and guess what the screener didn't go off.
The other thing I learned today judge which I think is very interesting is.
I think the screeners are doing random screens.
I think -- buzzards are going off when you go to the screener.
In a random fashion order orders is subject you to random pat downs that's why they don't go off each time he goes through its either that -- the machines don't work at all.
I tend to think the machines war.
But they're making you feel like you did something wrong when the buzzer goes off and then you submit more readily to the body -- so.
So you use senator Rand Paul think that the government.
Is making up an excuse a non -- basis for the pat down in order to and subdue members of the populace.
Two TSA agents indicated that they felt that that was true without directly saying it was true.
They felt it was possible that I was getting a random search.
And so it makes me suspicious but now the TSA is officially.
Saying that they don't do random searches based on their screen devices -- and then officially said that to the media so.
Either they are now saying that they aren't gonna tell the truth or that is the truth but today two of them told me.
That they felt there was random screening going on based on false alarms from the screening machine to do local screener doesn't know it's a false alarm.
-- local screener thinks it's a real alarm about it.
Senator Paul do you know if they knew who you work I ask you that because of the clause in the United States constitution.
Which prohibits the government from arresting detaining.
Members of congress.
-- they are going to or coming from.
The capital.
I typically get in line and -- just my driver's license wait in line like everybody else.
I think they ultimately do was that I'm not sure when they decided they knew what it lot knew who I was.
But I never indicated anybody or ask for special treatment.
I think it ought to be the same treatment for all Americans if you go through the screening device and you don't wanna pat down.
I think you ought to be allowed to go back to the screening device in case -- screening device.
Is making mistakes were you free to leave that when you were in that cubicle and attempting to use your telephone.
No -- I asked to leave then I actually took a step out in defiance of their orders and I was escorted back into the cubicle.
There's a TSA agent outside of the cubicle.
And I wanted to talk to him not to the people who -- in my cubicle.
And I stepped out and I was very aggressively.
Told that I need to be back in the cubicle.
But the interesting thing is is when they got started detaining me.
They've been evicted the and -- react could stay no longer possess -- while I still wanted to be detained.
Because I want to get try to get on my plane I was waiting -- Washington when intervened.
And they said no you have to leave and the policeman then took me outside of the secure area had to go back through the process against UK it was a crazy.
Is there any thing that you -- United States senator.
Can do about this it's inefficient it doesn't work it's unconstitutional.
It's authoritarian.
If that happened do you Rand -- it could happen to anybody.
I'm sure it's happening to people on a daily basis I spoke with the director of the TSA -- -- this afternoon I asked him for two things number one.
They're letting children go back there is it because they understood how offended we were bodies invasive -- -- six and seven year old children can go back through.
-- let adults go through leases -- it'll take too much time.
I said it would take twenty seconds -- that screeners fast.
Let people go back through or -- they wanna do a pat down that a bill pat down.
But let them get back in line and go back through not to distant line but I don't go right back into the screen or in come through again.
And I said how can you know if this intake of establishing Triad.
-- I don't know maybe they'll listen and maybe they'll -- -- program of that the other thing I ask for is I think the superiors need to have discretion.
It just -- John I was going through the national airport there needs to be a manager on site.
That when you say I don't wanna do screening and they ask who are you you show your IDs ambled back to New York private interview this evening.
I travel four times a week you can call my employer and outs for who I am but I don't want -- body search.
I think that should be enough but that has to be an individual has the discretion right to say oh that's right I know who you are and I -- traveling all Tom.
It doesn't you need a special attention.
But did any American power for IBM -- I say I'm going to Saint Louis for all my employer in Saint Louis and you can verify who I am I just don't wanna be patted down.
We should make them do that in order to say that we're in -- not the government.
Hopefully and hopefully change will come from this we'll have you back later in the week to talk about South Carolina and Florida and the Republican nomination.
And those who were seeking it -- reports a pleasure no matter what we talk about thanks for joining us thank -- what happens when college Republicans.