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Two years ago today a devastating earthquake hit Haiti the damage was massive 300000.
A million and a half homeless.
The -- community responded donating billions of dollars boss two years later.
It's estimated that half a million people are still homeless living in tents all temporary camps where did the money -- Joining us now is also award winning filmmaker Paul Haggis trust Michelle rapper and Haitian America -- you for us.
I've got a headline here USA today I think you've seen it now viewers will see it it says despite pledges Haiti in shambles.
My figures say eight billion dollars in government money agency money went to Haiti.
Two billion dollars in private charity went to Haiti.
-- I don't know why is Haiti still in shambles.
Well you know relaxed the most total going to from massive yes so.
Aboard an answer for you yeah.
I've got to tell -- prize in all seriousness along with our view is a really upsets.
Because that charitable people they sympathize and empathize they know Haiti where it's -- terrible period they opened that hearts open their wallets they paid the money.
They wanna know whether to go -- minutes and you got to look at the bureaucracy that it never even got things some of their most have been haven't gotten down hate.
That's a -- -- told that the private charity money two point one billion half of it all action of two thirds of it.
-- spent in hate that you look at a billion half that.
Moment -- on its typical Russian I'm about -- -- -- the book they they provide one point four billion of this private chat.
Did -- go to a corrupt organization it.
-- Want to get a book fall right oh no -- didn't know it is it maybe these organizations are corrupt but they're not fiction.
The I mean look at look at what the you know -- you say to me there is no corruption on the ground what -- of course I'm not.
Is a -- in case I mean there's no corruption in America I don't doubt that the best of the argument will -- -- over the over the will -- well I think that it -- yes they did and they should be really angry about this because that money is complex by the -- donor governments.
The money that's been that was given in good faith by people who give a bucket ten whatsoever.
Two big NGOs did not get there sitting in their -- line.
Why because of bureaucracy bureaucracy of the of of these big NGOs to say give us the money and we'll take -- but it and they don't.
Do you you you what you wanna know exactly where you every daughter goes.
That's what our organization artist peace and justice and Sean Gomez -- or revisions to these people is I know -- gives about our immigrant Ngo as the late -- out -- not to hurt.
But any -- they're these big charities they put someone preconditions so much red tape on on the on those Oklahoma as a simple -- -- governments the governments put.
But all these preconditions on -- at all you can do this you do this it would just put your money and they don't that -- and still singer poll I guess the got you -- big hit us.
Mountain the only people -- you know the united that you're big -- -- you produced the Oscar winning movie crash you -- -- -- pictures you had a pleasant.
You wrote to you about the bomb pictures you had a part in and writing call of -- a billion dollar video game yes -- a big hit up.
What are you gonna do about this what we spent -- I put my might and we've been there for four years artists -- peace justice and there for four years before the quake -- book the very first high school for the children -- -- the only high school.
You know if you can if you are -- -- -- there and neither thirteen thousand and GO through 2000 registered charities in -- 121000 of those have to deal with education not one has -- -- a high school until we got there a kept you have all these costs you realize what's gonna happen.
Next time something like this happens I don't think America's will be as generous and vocational all the NGOs -- they all go charities through indigo let's put our feet to the fire.
-- -- what I -- is a -- identified of people in the last year.
Between -- -- if Sean Penn convinced of they've been on the ground and they took every dollar that they collected and you can see what's been done in -- So you book -- yet -- get -- unit tell me that but at least it's going to be two billion dollars was spent right -- that -- Look two point one billion private -- two point one billion of private -- was collected.
Eight billion dollars was given by governments and agencies even attention bill was glad I pled not given so pledge to -- he's gonna be two billion don't go.
-- -- How much was spent tell me how much you tell me how much that this I don't see it on the ground there are never see it sickening -- -- I am there.
So the people -- them.
I don't and Hattie why should I did for anybody accountable as a person of goodwill given this discussion and given.
Widespread confusion about what's happening -- -- -- to get to people who can you work accountable right you look at us look at.
-- organization we are accountable look at other musicians they're accountable.
Are you look at sharpens our vision I know where that money goes I can tell you where that money goes I can tell you that -- -- tighten medication you look at ours ours -- just as we can tell you where that money goes along these people they cannot tell you.
Who goes to administration goes all this nonsense and that's a shake name names know each other people.
I don't know if I'm certainly not -- -- submitted -- -- -- this place this said that after one year after the -- when the biggest ones who have collected most of money that was that 20% of their funds after one year.
I'm not -- which one that is you can do your research -- -- I know regular person you're trying to figure out how to get money to make sure it's going to the right place what is the litmus test what do you look for.
-- for people who actually who who have been there.
Who are doing work on the ground have been effective doing it.
We we teamed up with people who delivered 22 years and also we can publications ours are all Haitian all right you've got the money the money's been pledged.
And you're telling me that is sitting -- the banks that's correct right.
To be -- -- -- what you gonna do now.
-- may listen what I did is as -- proliferation.
Aggressive and I want to identify.
Organization -- -- actually on the ground I've been on the ground we'll call I've been to the camp issuance and -- seen bill still.
-- a lot of money with Haiti but we we should -- and so what I'm doing some group I don't find these specific to reorganization.
And bringing into the world so -- -- like you go to all the ground it bought up fronts and hated.
You and me to tell me you can't get that money out of the banks and spend it and you know what is going you can't do that.
We can't Chrysler the government -- -- these because they can't publicly that they can -- do you can't get.
We definitely is a big organization billion dollar -- which were which multimillion dollar forgiven to -- pledged.
You're a big deal you get out I'm not Paul Haggis and upfront -- you know -- -- -- -- isn't it interesting we -- what is organization right.
Now one I was mentioning names.
But which you know and talking about.
Don't tell me to tell what you know what that -- With the job market John whatever it is not a bad idea the united Natalie -- -- don't -- -- -- -- -- -- -- United Nations and lose it to -- I don't tell me.
Come -- tell me look like television -- does that mean Bill Clinton now know.
Mean he's good on the ground he's been on the ground and -- he's done great work I think he's a -- not a big enough that they get back here you really look at what is absolutely working working -- all they're not actually he's trying to get the place the money has been pledged that has not gone down to -- -- he's working very good politics trying to get to -- -- government.
Hello I'm sorry we're out of time but it's it's pretty good stuff now and how bad they hit bottom -- exec at that.
Contact him across Michelle -- hi Chris thanks so much in declaration essentially.
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