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We're talking about the Pentagon budget national security or defense budget we're back -- Daniel Pipes Bob -- Judy Miller.
Let's go to the issue straight away Iran the threat it poses.
At a time which we were talking about reducing.
Defense spending by a hundred billion dollars a year -- that sounds.
Punitive two to the national security intact as it.
Well I I don't think we know how much the cuts are actually going to be we're not going to know until we see the president's budget so I wouldn't except.
-- -- -- Your -- closer to a hundred billion in say twenty I.
I think we know right away it's 500 billion just from sequestration.
As a result of of the deficit commission.
What they have said that they're going to make something in this order.
Well -- They have but before very different -- dealing with this issue -- -- is it a national security matter.
To the point that you think that there will be a partisan.
And will be a substantial issue in this campaign.
Well since everything seems to be a partisan issue these days I think you have to assume this one will be.
On the other hand you have a lot of Republicans who are just as concerned about the national security threat of our spending and what it does to our economy -- what does to -- standing in the world.
Think it's very hard to evaluate at this point which is the greater threat.
Why is -- so tough -- apply for us to evaluate.
The impact of spending.
Almost 700 billion dollars a year.
On the national security of nations that are in far better economic shape then we.
To defend themselves and to -- ally with us.
Against terrorist threats and geopolitical threats that are that have been that are emerging and that have been -- for decades.
Well I agree with your premise that I think we're there we're we're -- -- there -- others.
That American leaders have since World War II.
Been overly eager to take up burdens and and sometimes the point of other other leaders say well OK the Americans who do we don't have to bother over and over and we've done.
Over the last 65 years.
But that said I do think it's very important for us.
To happen international global presence.
We are creating the -- this the architecture.
The security architecture with the whole world and as soon as we pull back say in the Middle East cooperate is annual.
Why in the world is an incumbent upon us to establish the security architecture.
A for the whole world and isn't it presumptuous.
In the extreme for us to do so.
And by the way when you've got an ICBM.
Don't you have the capacity to expand -- your foreign policy and your national interest rather quickly.
Well as we -- the 1950s.
You can't just rely on for weapons you have to have forces.
Is -- presumptuous enough of us well maybe there's certain what did we -- benefits from -- That that you can't you.
You can't just rely on nuclear weapons you have to have actual forces to you can say whatever is gonna happen around the world our response is gonna be blown to smithereens.
But we're -- we'll -- -- ever question Charles and let me turn it -- -- Bob Leeson.
Iran emerging -- a threat.
Threatening our navy in the Strait of Hormuz a Red -- the Persian gulf.
-- In at the same time we're talking about reducing ground forces.
-- your reaction your thoughts.
We have our first a look at for the -- the dollar then they're gonna -- -- about you know wars happen to us it's not.
You know there were you know whether we like it or not but actually the last three big wars we we ended up the -- defended nations and -- and wanna defend themselves through.
All of South Korea were still having to bankroll self created we've got 60000 people -- to -- you know soldiers defending them.
That don't have to be either.
That stuff you know that the south kidneys than wanna defend themselves and that's why we've gotten -- it's not that wars just not happen to us that you.
And and -- -- I think in the case of Iran -- -- people talk about what a great threat they are.
In one day 124 hour period we could destroy their whole refinery industry -- could destroy all the the terminals that you know that the war over org or over the ship's.
But -- -- pauper rise from the 24 hours.
In terms of -- -- -- people talk about mining in this straight.
Of Hormuz in fact it's impossible to minus principal -- -- that it's to the channels to deepen Kurtz too strong in fact there were below the current would.
-- the mines back of the Iranian shore.
That you know their their navy consists of some small boats and you know some talks with Tom Cruise missiles and some.
And some big deal and some big voices -- -- big -- that's.
-- thank you very much all of you Daniel thank you very much Judy thank you.
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