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I'm -- Grover Norquist joins us now so Grover we've avoided a shut down but.
Some people say -- -- heading for crisis that's gonna force tax -- -- so long with some got a spending cuts do you buy that.
No it really depends what happens in the next election November 2012.
This year 2011.
And Reid and -- she wanted to two trillion dollar.
Tax increase to pay for the increased spending that they've done of the last several years.
The Republicans said no taxes off the table.
And what they got was day two and a half trillion dollar spending reduction over the next decade from Obama is overspending so -- made clear.
Spending getting going down it's just going up two and a half trillion dollars less than Obama.
Wanted so that's moving in the right direction slow late.
Rather than raising taxes to validate.
The higher spending levels of Obama.
But we can't turn this around to a get a different president at a different senate now EU said two trillion dollars -- remember the president suggesting he wouldn't sign anything.
That had less than one trillion dollars in tax increases were how did you get two trillion.
-- two trillion was the opening bid from the Simpson Bowles commission -- that.
Number it's up Paul Ryan's analysis The Heritage Foundation thinks it's three trillion.
There was a little fudge factor and -- Simpson -- so between two and three trillion dollars and higher taxes.
Was the opening -- the Obama.
Administration and the people who wanted a big deal.
Then this fall he said any tax reform would have to be one to one and a half trillion dollars in higher.
Taxes that's would carry the Democrats were demanding.
The super secret committee that we're headed right that that failed abysmally well let's talk about sensible for say because they -- they wanted to lower tax rates not raise tax rates.
They wanted to course get rid of a lot of deductions rip up the tax code which is fine by me.
But the president didn't go for why do you do you think that was a strategic miss move on his part leading into the election year.
Look what the president the recently had Simpson -- both of whom are appointed by Obama let's not got this idea that some sort of bipartisan let's all work together.
Africa's was Obama's commission and its goal was to get the Republican mr.
-- tax increases of any size.
So that they would have betrayed the support they got from -- party years and from independence.
To make them poison to their own base and two independents.
Going -- 2012.
Obama and Reid and plus she wanted to raise taxes.
Up to the new spending levels that they hope to be the new normal.
What Republicans and taxpayer advocates like myself we're saying is now now now we want to start bringing the spending level down.
Towards 20/20 1% of GDP not the 25%.
Obama took it up to.
Obama failed all year that's why they're kind of -- Which -- not -- not against real tax reform that might.
And up even bringing in some extra revenue I mean it could it is possible that if tax rates are lowered enough to really.
Generate a booming economy the government might end up -- more revenue.
-- absolutely if we take the top rate from 35%.
Down to 25.
Corporate and individual -- the economy will grow and and the government will get more revenue not higher taxes.
Not higher tax rates but more revenue to exactly what we should do but -- the modern Democratic Party wanted to do that.
They wouldn't be Democrats -- that they and they did they really I guess they genuinely do not believe.
That it's ever been possible to lower tax rates and -- and bring in more revenue even though it happened in the twenties and -- in the sixties and -- in the eighties and it happened under the under President Bush.
And it happened under Clinton when we cut the capital gains tax -- Obama has said.
He knows that need it won't get more money from -- the capital gains tax and he still wants to do it.
Because he's playing the politics of division if you're Obama President Obama you cannot run for reelection saying four more years you cannot run for reelection on the slogan morning in America.
You cannot ask the question you better off than you were four years ago you have to go for something else.
And and the and division.
Is what's left because hope and change doesn't work a second time but we already had an election -- we had a -- Democrats are disastrous mid term election the same thing happened -- Bill Clinton.
His party lost huge in the 1994 mid terms and Bill Clinton changed his -- he became more moderate he began to deal with Republicans -- That is not happening to President Obama President Obama is is doubling down.
On his bet on a big government and on his rhetoric about big government.
Look Obama could do several things if you want to get reelected he could do.
He could allow foreign come that American companies that had earnings overseas to do repatriation.
Bring back 67.
800 billion dollars of overseas earnings back -- United States.
At -- low tax rates that kind of tsunami of cash in the United States should be very important and helpful.
To a -- as the economy and his chances of running.
As a more pro growth candidate but he showed ideologically driven that he's against that even though would help them.
That's pipeline that he's opposing would create jobs and give the sense it is not.
Crazy in terms of killing jobs just because -- environmentalists want to and he just can't physically do it.
He is is rigid ideologically.
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