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First last week we exposed on this very show how union bosses were using dues from their workers for a tropical vacation.
Yet today AFL CIO president Richard Trumka went after CEOs instead.
Just the raw numbers show -- society becoming.
More and more divided.
Between the 1%.
And the 99%.
And relative to other workers.
America's CEOs have never been paid more money than over the past decade.
America's investors including workers' pension funds and retirement savings.
Have suffered the worst stock market performance.
Since the Great Depression.
What they've bingo has seen a -- -- receive first -- is the author of the devil at my doorstep.
The story of how he fought to keep unions out of his business he joins us now from Indianapolis -- David first thought do you think unions are helping.
And no they're not David the unions are out there for one reason only -- and that's to get press time and you know the spread their rhetoric commend but people know that's all about class warfare this has nothing to do with the the 1% this is all about the unions and and their campaigns while -- is part of the 1%.
Well that's right if you look at it you know the last few years he's increased his -- salary significantly.
And at the expense of union members and as you mentioned they do take their vacations to tropical places I know for instance.
Couple years ago we were approached by union for -- collection.
And we set down with the employees that were being organized and we told them about.
These vacations and the trips to the Disney World for -- conventions and things like that.
Can't -- of -- they say is that they were shocked.
And you know it's not just the salaries this -- having strong -- -- about.
300 and some thousand dollars a year but it's all the benefits all the extras I mean do you think that they actually.
Pay for the limos that that cart them around.
Well I'm sure they don't I'm sure little pair trade for on the air -- any thing like that.
But in fairness you know a lot of CEOs you know -- our business -- expenses are covered to.
But the difference is we're not doing it at the expense of members -- Then in fact I've got to -- the -- my book on California she's -- Marion the mighty.
And she's an SE -- U member and she's trying to -- -- CIU out there right now and how they're -- in their union dues for power and politics and and conventions and other things and it's just.
I think it's an awakening I think people Begin to realize that the big labor bosses are for the love rank and file members.
Well I think people have been voting with their feet for a long time -- India -- in the private sector union membership is now below 7%.
Of course public sector use have been growing along with government but private sector -- have been going down because people see where they are spending their money very often it benefits the bosses not so much -- people under the.
Well that's exactly right when you look at the statistics today it's very clear that you know the unions represented less and 12%.
The workforce and spend -- and 7% of the private workforce.
That tells you exactly what you said people are voting with their feet they -- a rep for -- represented themselves and use their money for their own good.
Now it basically in Europe in your particular situation the employees decided not to join unions correct.
Well yeah I'll actually in our situation what happened is as GSE you came to the midwest.
And they -- he will give our people a chance to vote they wanted me to sign to neutrality agreement.
That would put card check -- apply.
-- foursome -- the reason to be unionized and I said no we're not gonna do that if you wanna have a -- election.
-- live with results than they said no.
We're not gonna do that if you don't sign or protect you your employees are your customers and that's what they did so they backed out without election dated -- election because they knew they'd lose -- Well that's right but -- they they start a corporate campaign against us that lasted for.
Almost five years and cost us a lot of money that we could have used for employees and other things.
And but we eventually one hand now the -- our people -- enjoy the same wages are better and benefits are better and don't have to pay union dues.
By the way at the end of that campaign against you did day today win over at any adherence any of your employees are where they're more for you at the end of their campaign against.
Well what's really interesting I'll tell you this quick story.
Towards the end of it they tried to get we have about 600 people in Indianapolis -- try to get him to go out on strike.
We got ten people to go out on strike and we you figure about half of those were union salts you know people lived.
-- and our workforce.
So you do the percentages not many people were in favor being part of the SE you David -- quite experience David thank you very much appreciate you covenant thanks.
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