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Joining me now Grover Norquist president of Americans for Tax Reform.
-- great to have you with a -- I've got to ask.
You what did you think of the president's speech today in Kansas are riveting compelling persuasive.
-- the -- the United States cannot run for reelection on the argument of four more years he can't run with campaign.
-- saying warning in America.
He can't ask America the question are you better off today than you -- four years ago.
So it's got a something else.
And the something else to say pay no attention to the trillions of dollars at Obama's spending is added to the debt.
Pay no attention of the trillions of dollars of tax increases he's passed.
That don't hit until after the next election so you haven't felt them yet but there in law coming -- 1214.
1213 -- about fourteen.
He needs to get you focused on something else he hates people who create jobs and he thinks that's -- winning slogan and it probably would be in Albania.
I'm not sure it's so useful here I.
It it may not be effective we'll see.
Of but the fact is the abstractions of the Republican Party at this point how effective will they be.
Sometimes devolved to esoteric.
Rather than powerful I've directed.
Well I think the Republican position that they will repeal the government takeover of health care obamacare.
And repeal the tax increases and the government spending associated with it.
Is a powerful message and they need to repeat it the -- United States is trying to raise taxes to pay for the increase in spending that he and the Democrats put in.
Over the last few years when they were in -- They'll grow merger saying that voters' eyes are glazing over right now you know that you know the debt.
It's still watching you -- there well -- -- -- how well I think I'm not heard about their informed bubble but I am talking about their patients -- There the rhetoric of the campaign it's not the kind of thing that if you -- I were out on this stump.
The seeking election -- that we would -- -- that we would wanna get through mired the united I I would think we would agree.
What we are talking about is restoring prosperity what we are talking about is creating jobs what we are talking about is creating well.
And I don't know who amongst the Republican candidates right now is speaking most eloquently are articulately.
About how to get there.
Well obviously that's what -- Gingrich and Romney are going to -- have to do in the next few months and over the next.
I year because you're right this is we need to get America back to creating jobs so that we are creating more jobs -- -- growth.
In China and Europe and our competitors and that we have been doing of the last.
Few years and when Obama shuts down pipelines and doesn't let people drill for oil and tries to stop.
Shell oil and all these other possible opportunities to create jobs.
It's not very helpful we need to move and a different direction.
Susan Collins and Parma castle through senators coming together.
-- -- quote -- quote bipartisan proposal on the extension of the payroll tax cuts.
Your thoughts on first extending those payroll tax cuts is that something you.
Can support and advanced -- and secondly are Collins -- McCaskill.
What do you think the it's not a bad idea to extend for another year of the tax a lower tax rates for spike attacks so straight taxes.
But it should be paid for by reducing spending in this is exactly what the Republicans in the senate.
Proposed by not hiring as many government workers over the next several years as the Democrats want to do.
Let's cut spending to match the lower taxes.
There -- Susan -- wants to raise the cost of home heating oil for the people in -- I don't think that the very bright idea but that's what she's talking about doing raising taxes on energy.
In order to quote unquote pay for the lower taxes on Social Security let's reduce spending.
Not raise taxes and -- seems to be the essential message for at least right now that in the ebb and flow.
Of the the national discussion in particular as it emanates from the White House the White House right now seems to be prevailing.
In that conversation.
The message that you just articulated.
A seems at least at the moment to be in have.
-- what will propel it back to the forefront.
And in the national news media.
Well the president can give speeches and on the senate side the Democrats keep putting up bills that they know won't pass and that not even all the Democrats won about four.
But the Republicans in the house have an opportunity to pass.
A bill that would be pro growth and would cut government spending and that will put focus back on 88 better approach than this idea of raising taxes to pay for Obama's larger government.
Why Susan Collins wants to drag the taxpayers and main -- that.
Is beyond me you locked -- Parma counsel and we're she's dragging the voters of Missouri room for.
Well -- -- those trying to look reasonable because she spent the last several years voting for Obama spending and tax policies and and that government takeover.
The voters of Missouri voted overwhelmingly to reject.
-- -- the -- got to run with that.
-- around her.
-- and why Susan Collins is trying to help reelected democratic senator from military strikes me as an odd way to spend -- evenings.
I couldn't help but throw the question out their religious couldn't wait to hear the answer -- lowers good talking review -- -- --