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It is an absolute falsehood.
To suggest.
That I favor amnesty for eleven million people.
Period anybody says -- was going on has been served notice that they are -- think somebody -- is not true -- should itself should disqualify them as a candidate.
If he's Condit.
Do what I believe he said he was going to do for those people who would be allowed to stay permanently become citizens that would be providing for them a form of amnesty.
Gonna weigh on the senator gentleman's views in here in just a moment I'm doing so with the collaboration that two of the folks at the center of the national debate.
On illegal immigration border security.
I'm joined now by Chris come back the secretary of state of the great state of Kansas co author of numerous state anti illegal immigration laws and Alberto -- -- this junior attorneys serving as counsel to business interest affected by immigration laws.
Former General Counsel to senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson gentlemen thanks for being here.
I'm gonna start this by saying something that and I your both attorneys are -- and in brilliant.
I find it stunning that neither Romney.
The -- this former speaker himself governor Romney or the -- or Newt Gingrich are saying.
That in point of fact want nude is saying.
Is part of existing immigration law right now with one -- there has to be a legal.
Are you legal resident.
In the family that direct -- of the undocumented or illegal immigrant in order to stay deportation.
Do you find that Chris stunning that that hasn't been part of the discussion given all that is all of -- controversy that's been kicked up by -- to his credit I believe.
The former speaker.
Well I think that is that is interest thing I think there are number of things that -- -- is missing and -- you know he's normally really well prepared and quite often that.
The best researched guy in the room but I on this issue.
He makes three errors let me just quickly -- -- -- -- suggests to me that -- maybe.
Hasn't done its homework one as he says that when we deport people we separate families and that's not true -- -- over backwards to keep families together.
When that the adults in the family are being deported usually families are kept together.
A number two EC suggest we should have boards of people review who gets the amnesty under his -- -- doesn't get the amnesty.
But evidently he's unaware that we don't even have enough people in -- -- -- Homeland Security right now for one person to review every applicant they're does just that there's a huge personnel shortage.
And number three I find it curious.
That he's suggesting amnesty should go to the people who are here at the longest if you succeeded in breaking federal law now.
For twenty years or more you get you get you get a NMS you get a break.
But people who've broken offer less period of time don't so.
I just think that he's not thinking through this one but I do you feel the -- I don't I think -- he actually is to keep to a -- clear Broadway.
Looking at platitudes where we need to address border security first.
Look at the visas that we need for workers into the future.
And then once we have those discussions in place and once we have those laws in place we can talk about.
What we do here now I also think we've -- -- amnesty is is amnesty allowing somebody could stay here.
Now I'm just an illegal form or is it allowing somebody to become a United States permanent resident alien.
With citizenship opportunities down the road I think we've got to make that distinction.
Real rally that's what's got that up president who would you like do you believe amnesty.
Is the result -- a path to citizenship or legalization of current status.
It it indeed it doesn't matter whether as a path to citizenship amnesty is any program that gives on -- legal status to people who are here illegally gives them what they have stolen the stolen legal president -- -- the United States in this legalize as gives them what they have -- that's amnesty and important qualifier and mass.
