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Shopping and dining over Thanksgiving and -- watching some football games big government Republicans and Democrats were busy shredding the last vestiges of the constitution.
Senators John McCain and Carl Levin.
Want to declare want to enact a law that would declare the entire United States of America a battlefield.
For the military.
They're talking about inserting the army into domestic law enforcement senator Lindsey Graham who supports this bill says quote.
The homeland as part of the battlefield.
-- people can be held without trial whether an American citizen or not.
This hasn't read the constitution recently retired lieutenant colonel Douglas Macgregor joins us now colonel McGregor as a -- as always welcome back to freedom watch.
Thanks -- I must tell you I was utterly appalled when I saw this legislation proposed we did learn about -- until last night.
Because the committee hearings -- that were done in secret even other constitution requires the congress.
To do these things and public on the what I'll actual hearings there's a bunch of members of the -- -- got together and wrote this thing.
And it basically says the president can arrest -- -- -- anywhere in the United States of America.
And keep them without charging them with a crime without letting them see a lawyer without bringing them to a judge for as long as he wants.
How is the fact consistent with the constitution.
Well judge -- the legal expert put it whatever you suspend due process which is in effect suspend as a rule of law.
You walked out of very dangerous path and you give authority to your government that it -- then we'll -- essentially without restraint.
What worries me is that -- let them creating categories of people who are -- subject to arbitrary arrest.
And that's dangerous because we don't know how those categories will be defined are interpreted the future all of all it's a disaster and it's something that should be defeated.
You you have spent a career in the military.
-- also an expert in political science particularly with respect to its relationship to the military.
Do you see any role for the military and domestic law enforcement do you see American.
Troops young men and women.
Arresting other Americans because the president doesn't like what -- -- I certainly hope not and I can tell you that having served in the regular armed forces.
People in the regular army and Marine Corps have no interest in participating in those -- -- events.
I'm sure there are some narrow purposes to which the military could be put to good use being clearly if you're dealing with paramilitary drug.
Lords and -- is on your soil you may need the assistance of the military but.
Other than that I can't conceive of any sort of circumstances would justify this legislation.
A right switching gears a little bit where we were just talking to senator Ron Johnson about what happens now.
That the super committee failed a supposedly these sequestration it's -- personal kick -- Until 120 thirteen but if they do kick in.
Kick in the military.
These sequestration stated differently.
Aren't we already spending far more than we need to defend in the nation and defend our freedom on the military.
Well the answer to your second question of course is yes.
And the way to go about this and we have no way of knowing what people on the hill will do it remember the people on the hill contrary to popular belief.
Are not really terribly well informed about military affairs so they're they're gonna be bombarded by a mix of lobbyists and general so that -- -- try and pursue their agendas.
But the way to do it is to cut from the outside -- that is to Begin reducing and scaling back our overseas presence which is a legacy of the Cold War.
And then the expansion of that overseas presence -- we went through in the ninety's under Clinton.
And it's really run out of control since 2001.
So bringing those forces -- stopping the expenditures overseas.
We'll save us at least two trillion dollars for the first three or four years of it's done intelligently.
Then we need to look at reform and reorganization you're dealing with a national security act was passed in 1947 judge.
This is an anachronistic.
Are commanding control structure left over from World War II -- desperately need reform and reorganization what way to go about that.
Is to -- this beast of money.
And compel people to to reexamine all of their assumptions because the future is not going to look like depressed about it colonel Douglas Macgregor it's a pleasure thanks for joining us.
-- thank you judge a -- continues right here.
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