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Democratic pollster Doug Schoen on the future of the Occupy Wall Street movement and its impact on the administration.
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Thanks very much indeed.
Former Clinton advisor Doug -- is -- all right Doug how to these breaking events in lower Manhattan affect.
President Obama any impact at all well until it's clarified I don't think so.
-- I do believe that he wants a robust.
Occupy Wall Street for his own purposes because it drives his argument.
That these financial system is unfair.
That there's 1% 99 present so I suspect the White House is rooting for the protesters I think that's one area of success of these protesters they did make the point -- he was picked up by Democrats and President Obama that there is income inequality in America and he's getting -- I think they brought that issue to the whole -- sort of shot themselves in the -- because judge at a time when the government is growing bigger when the big government agenda is is getting stronger.
That's when this income disparity is also.
Growing -- mergers so you're -- can be made that because.
Of the expansion of big government which they want income disparity violent.
They made that point.
I mean we -- -- -- spoiled you know half -- half of them are being supported by the appearance they won't have iphones and they're all on FaceBook about going long.
It wasn't so much and then that made the point it was Democrats and people on the left outside of this movement speaking on television who kept sexy.
That the 99% then the ones who complaining about inequality of income -- we really have to do something about it until loved the Michael -- stories two million dollar -- -- -- -- three -- -- Three million dollars for good.
1% exactly I don't they made a point just or -- -- afternoon talk about they did have the opportunity talk about and I think it resonated so yeah.
I think the advantage that Occupy Wall Street has is the attentions move from then.
To the cause there are advocating which is redistribution or eliminating.
If come inequality because when you look at them quite sad to say I think Tracy's right they're not exactly the kind of group -- want to kids to model themselves after I think the president -- The message and help get the message out but was embarrassed by the behavior of the demonstrators and some of their -- left fringe ideas that they -- -- -- this while he likes the message he just doesn't like.
The messengers to OK -- more like -- for -- dog the pipeline you know.
Now we're told today that the trans Canada people will re -- the pipeline away from this -- To placate some of the demands of the environmentalists work.
But I don't think that makes any difference I don't think it's gonna be built in the first place because he's still gonna have.
The new environmental impact statement so the president still get -- way you know pipeline.
We'll be very interesting David and I were talking about this before.
I believe it's not gonna go forward certainly before the election because of two things environmental concerns but also the fact that a lobbyist who was close.
To Secretary Clinton.
Was lobbying for trans Canada I think that's a hornet's nest the administration is gonna want to avoid.
Pre election but if Richard Trumka goes to the White House and reads the riot act to the president and says this is something unions.
Have to have before the election we have to have insurance otherwise the Canadians are going to Asia we're gonna make that price level -- was together -- if that happens unions -- sunken unions are gonna stand for speaking of the FL CIO we tried to get the AFL CIO itself to come on the show and talk about this delay from the Obama team.
But his what they wrote back to us -- and I'm quoting directly sorry.
We on not interested in appearing on you'll show.
Thank you.
Well here's the here's the internal dialogue in the White House.
They say look unions got 62%.
In Ohio.
We're running a populist campaign we can't afford.
Two Fenn Richard Trumka and they have fell on the other hand we don't want.
Daryl Hannah and -- getting arrested in front of the White House.
We don't want on pleasant concerns about lobbyists and their roles coming out during the fall campaign I would say that unions in their political power trump.
Derek -- forgive me -- like -- and I veteran showed -- a beautiful I have some great ideas -- on this she loses to Richard -- so do you think the spot on is built on a -- I think that if the union has its way and if they -- the president's hand they have a lot more power than all the environmental groups put together addressing and you say David.
These same wager you made with Stuart Varney I'll make the same wager it doesn't go forward until after the election night -- -- -- -- completely I.
The warrior armed I'm thinking that aren't -- gonna -- in the unions eventually trump.
They've environmentalists concerned and get the -- you are right he's otherwise a Canadian spyware I had been at the minister I have the minister natural hazards from Canada on last -- on power -- money.
And he said look we are willing to wait a little while we're not gonna jump the gun and immediately go to Asia but we can't wait forever they're gonna -- about another year they don't see if they're going to -- -- -- landless movement is much larger than the unions these -- yeah but the unions have more political power than they -- because only -- you say they will they'll say it they will -- -- unions are gonna force -- I'd say they'll never build -- you agree -- -- that never build it and -- after the election -- and after the hello this -- -- -- a little thanks so much --
