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The Obama administration is it delay any decision on the Keystone Pipeline until after the 2004.
Unions strong as of the president they wanted to decision and they want of that pipeline built.
-- behind his -- he's all for all of -- state of the unions he joins us live from DC unifil you've long been on this program as an ardent supporter.
Of the unions.
What do you make of this decision you know gonna get that pipeline -- Well.
I I think that's a premature statement it'll be delayed.
And to be honest I I wish he hadn't the president had not put this off I'd like to see you make a decision.
And not hunt for political reasons.
That said I do think there are legitimate arguments on both sides I think the number jobs has been overstated.
As twenty I think it's closer to 5000.
And we're talking about not permanent jobs.
And I think there are questions about the environmental impact and also about the -- the pipeline would take but again that's -- I do wish he had made a decision one way or the other yes.
I didn't look if you delay it until after the election as a delay of at least a -- yeah.
You really add to the cost to the point whether trans Canada people may just walk away and they prime minister of Canada.
-- -- Hoffa is already saying today look if you don't want the oil may be China will and they'll build a pipeline going west and exported to Asia.
But all -- on a different subject.
Why is it that we've not heard any outcry from the unions because of this delay in the pipeline decision.
I -- you wanted this thing built it would've created some pretty good.
High -- union jobs without any government money involved at all.
Why is that -- -- Well I.
You know he -- he again he didn't he didn't tell that he delayed it I think there is if there's not a there may be an outcry at some -- and soon maybe they're working behind the scenes but again.
Some unions construction -- particularly were in favor this I don't think a lot of the unions care all that much and there's little -- environmental alliance with with a lot of unions and and environmental.
Sensitivity among a lot of union leaders I don't think this is a block.
And white issue.
Well look -- -- 25000.
Miles of pipeline already going across that I qualified.
Which is that the nature of the problem the that's what they didn't want another pipeline -- everybody got 25000.
I mean the environmental risk is being studied.
For years about this thing.
Look I think it's there are -- Richard Trumka -- that pounding the table.
And calling names of people because this thing has been delayed and I think it's gonna -- here.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I think they've got to pick and choose their battles you know -- that then they could really come down hard and Obama.
But what's the alternative and who -- whom is that going to help we don't -- it's gonna lose a little New Orleans but you don't think this will lose any union blue -- -- and the view but -- about about it would be -- a lot more damaging politically.
For labor is dangerous if if if they really came down hard and -- on a bomb and helped is -- upon smoke but the bigger pictures distort.
Labor has a lot bigger problems with this president -- this issue.
I mean he promised to sign into law the employee free choice act which he cosponsored as a senator as president he put it on them.
Back -- he's done things like that that really have graded on labor.
Compared to that this is fairly minor.
So do you think that's.
The president will gets strong backing from the unions I mean I'm sure -- get a lot of money.
From the unions but will he get the -- out of the union vote.
I had -- I doubt it.
Well he'll get back -- he'll get backing from.
Labor not just not just money but he'll get he'll get support -- get their logistical support which is even more important than their money.
The troops on the ground but.
Like I said they elected.
Blue collar people -- union members voted for him because he was gonna make it easier to organize.
They're wondering where the jobs are.
They're wondering why this administration is so full of Wall Street and and baking people who baking backgrounds -- there's a lot of dissatisfaction.
They're not gonna vote for -- for his opponent but a lot of the -- -- it turned out I would suggest unless something changes between now and then including unemployment.
-- -- filled -- always a pleasure to have you with us -- -- we agreed on something today this is kind of unusual for the show but nonetheless a very welcome change -- last foothills.
Go ahead we'll sometimes and sometimes you are right -- well one again and again at fifteen -- you on the up -- so.
There -- until Don thanks a lot next.
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