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Welcome back to the special housing summit one of the big issues of this housing crisis is what they called jingle mail.
This is -- people just give up pack up and put the keys in the mailbox for the bank.
The practice has implication for all of us not just troubled homeowners.
One company is helping more -- more Americans simply walk away how does that work.
I spoke with this with a co-founder of a company called you walk away dot com take a -- Help homeowners.
That are either she TV faulting or simply can't afford the that the payment strategic default.
Is a term for people.
That can't afford their mortgage.
But because it's a bad investment because -- property so upside down in value that they decide to walk away from the property.
And you have to look at strategic default.
Because you know even though you could say someone can't afford the mortgage.
But they don't pay -- its all relative what if someone could afford it but -- dipping into their retirement and causing them not to be able to retire.
What do you say to this issue the moral hazard issue that -- out.
While there's certainly ethical considerations and it and it it's to each person and what their intent -- but.
If you look at the contract any legal obligations you keep pointing out they are breaking their contract.
The contract states that they -- to pay their mortgage but if they don't.
Then the bank it's -- house back so there is collateral on their by the bank of the house they've hedged their bets with the interest rates.
I've said this time and time again they're not breaking their contract they're not doing anything illegal but -- won't get all my time.
Tapered to do the jingle mail things in your keys and say I -- up.
Hi I just can't handle -- I want.
People I I see -- see its toll find that people look at it as a financial decision to -- from their property.
The problem that I see is the social impact so it's someone walks with from their property they're affecting someone on their their block their affecting the housing market.
So that's where -- see an ethical dilemma you're -- fact absolutely.
It did the community tell us what you.
How you advise people about the credit score.
And what's gonna happen there there's two different elements of the credit one as -- credit score and one is credit report.
So we're seeing in homeowners were their score going back up.
Within that you know first year after for closing twelve -- in the first twelve of firsts for here is you going to -- So how many points to they lose.
But just depend depends on what points they had initially obviously if if they have higher.
You know -- 750 they're gonna lose an average of of one twining.
But you know there's no sat algorithm with credit and we're still a mystery to people but let it could but I wanna finish -- my -- I want to -- yes I wanna finish on the point though the effect is really on a credit report.
So that the report is gonna show that there was a foreclosure.
That's gonna stay on there for seven years to -- Yes so someone can restore their credit back -- did you know to eight hundreds but when a lender -- -- it.
They're gonna see that there's a for closure on there.
And that's -- -- their decision but keep in mind there's so many people for closing.
-- the scoring and the reports are gonna change in the future and how how the lenders look at that score report.