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Sam Bain of the Ohio College Republican Federation discusses the future of unions in the Buckeye State.
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Joining me now Ohio college Republican federation co chair Sam Bain Sam of the voters in Ohio shooting themselves in the foot.
If they backed down and municipal unions after all I think Governor Walker in Wisconsin and governor Casey said that.
The law there is in place in Wisconsin that -- gone into place in Ohio was actually saving money closing budget deficits.
Well that's exactly right and it's a shame because the people of Ohio were lied to them manipulated by the unions for their own -- -- sake.
The department of administrative services and Ohio actually put a study Al right after the bill is passed and -- said it save the state.
One point three billion dollars statewide in these local cities' local.
Municipal townships and need the money the most and because the spill failed you're gonna see them start laying off workers all over the state.
Because our -- is straining and the unions all they did was provide you know these emotional arguments but -- and offer different solution.
Have they offered a different solution I feel like -- Ohio voters would have listened but instead.
They they unfortunately fell under the the -- of the emotional -- argument of the unions and voted no on the bill and our state is going to pay for.
You know -- -- just for the record a couple of seconds before we came on air governor Kasich of Ohio governor.
-- -- people have voted and I'm listening so he's gonna go forth he's gonna go ahead with this however let's talk a little bit about what the Ohio.
The Ohio law how how is different from the Wisconsin law it actually takes whatever Wisconsin did -- to go one step further does it not.
Yeah it does and he knew it was considered kind of the the most controversial bill for unions.
And the nation a lot of things it and one of the things it did was they made union dues.
Voluntary before public workers all across the state were forced to join a union and they didn't want to join a union they can opt out but they still had to pay the dues.
And that's you know 600000.
Dollars a year that they could save if they didn't -- join the union.
One example Larry -- he is the executive director for the Ohio education association the entire.
The biggest.
Union for teachers in the state.
He makes 2101000.
Dollars a year off money laundering -- out of the hard working paychecks of teachers.
You don't -- the unions talking about his salary.
I don't know any yet teachers and make 2101000 dollars a year I don't know any teachers and -- even half that -- unions are concerned about the middle class they ought to reduce the -- and they had to do that now targets of the central Ohio including public workers are hurting.
Except for -- you go take a listen to Dennis Kucinich was on this exact show talking about -- vote that he predicted would actually -- which means repeal of the of the log would take a listen.
Unemployment number that that he he needs to get below and I think we need to get to 6% we need to create for the next few years we need to create.
About 380 to 40000 jobs -- month -- month well that not exactly what I was looking for but what he said on the show.
He basically said because it was the Wisconsin bill plus in Ohio they added com.
Cops -- fire for -- first responders.
Because of that ad in is really why the bill effect that it looked past have failed in in casings.
Perspective -- would you agree with that assessment.
You know some of that may be true but again because union misrepresented the bill.
If you actually look at -- current bill senate bill five it added the language saying that public workers specifically police men and our firefighters could collectively bargain for safety equipment that wasn't an old bill passed by Democrats -- in 1983.
Senate bill five actually put that language and that they could collectively bargained for safety agreement.
But again you don't hear anything out of the -- talking about that they completely.
Misrepresent what's in the bill and they ought to be ashamed for the themselves.
Very proud of themselves right now a lot of the over them up at each other on the back taking some victory -- and they were gonna leave it there thank you very much.
Why -- Ohio.
