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2012 -- government investments -- losing operations like Solyndra make our next guest furious Lisa Qualls.
Runs a social marketing -- and says while the administration is heading up tons of money to Green energy firms -- go bust.
-- virtually impossible to get a government -- for her business.
That these businesses like hers -- before better chance of succeeding in creating jobs she joins us.
Along with standard solar CEO Tony Clifford who says Lisa is missing the point of the Green energy.
Initiatives are at least -- what makes you mad.
-- XP and equality.
How these loans are given out you know as a small business.
I've been told I need to -- three years of top line revenue growth and profitability.
At the trade 30% range and yet I see a company excellence -- you get fat you know half a billion dollars to a -- start -- -- and it's just.
It's a confusing process to say the least on how that selections made and not necessarily fair at least from my -- -- -- Tony you can understand why folks like police are mad get should I mean they see -- -- -- The government picking winners and losers they're -- more losers in some cases of winners.
Well -- but I think we have to look -- -- lender in the context of the overall solar industry.
There are about 5000 companies involved in solar in the United States.
There were five direct loan guarantees from DOE to solar companies so one out of every thousand or so companies in the solar business actually got a loan guarantee.
And if you look at the impressive growth that solar -- had in the past few years.
You can see -- -- where oh wait a minute Tony Tony this solar industries been on hard times for the past six months or all kinds of articles.
You go and in Google solar industry in the past six months in.
You find that the solar industries -- -- a tough time -- I think you're missing the point I think there's a segment of the solar industry that's having a hard time.
And that's the module manufacturing industry of that right now is in difficulty I know that most of these companies are not in difficulties are doing quite well I think icici so when you're IC beacon power -- -- Ener1 Lisa.
Bottom line -- should government be picking winners or losers at all quickly.
You know I problem necessarily -- government lands in fact have loved to have -- I just know that there's a lot hundreds of thousands of businesses out there.
With 25000 dollars could be the difference between survival and that -- dancing with that -- gained a different story dollars it just doesn't seem fair would 25 million -- basic difference for you.
It would deathly outlook cash flow challenges at a big -- company like -- faces everyday maximum.
We got to leave it back getting -- -- we had a truncate this segment but we have a lot of breaking news from Ohio Lisa Qualls Tony Clifford thank you both for join.