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-- -- -- turning now to the ongoing super committee meetings in DC the question of raising taxes to reduce the deficit.
A major obstacle in those negotiations senate majority leader Harry Reid said Republicans are being.
Let liked puppets and are terrified of my next guest.
Joining me now is Grover Norquist president of Americans for Tax Reform.
And -- good to have you with this you Brothers -- good -- You represented apparently for of these senate majority leader a major impediment to through working his will.
Or are you in any way contrite.
He's unhappy because the American people don't want their taxes increased and in 2010.
They elected a majority of the members of the house representatives.
-- signed a written pledge to their constituents through the American people that they wouldn't raise taxes so.
He's not -- America he's not a tax -- she's mad at the entire Republican Party he pretends to have a fight with made that.
Is just being -- And.
And the idea that the American people don't want to see any more taxes higher taxes more spending.
And -- three consecutive years and accessible trillion dollars in deficit.
Approaching sixteen trillion in.
In national debt perhaps enough and be considered to be enough.
But in terms -- Grover Norquist -- member of the subject of more than one.
Views today we wanna turn to speaker Boehner or his if you -- Grover Norquist.
So our focus here is on jobs.
We're during that weekend to get of the get our economy -- -- -- get people back to work.
The awful amassed about some random person in America you know what -- Well random person what what is your reaction.
Well the good news -- that they were pressuring.
That's mister Boehner speaker Boehner.
About the taxpayer protection pledge and whether Republicans would support a tax increase and that -- sort of personalizing it with me but.
The next statement he made them was look the Republicans -- tax increases has raising taxes will kill jobs as bad for the economy -- He said -- exactly correct the Republicans -- tax increases because it's bad for the economy and it's bad for the country.
They don't oppose tax increases because they signed the pledge to oppose tax increases.
They sign the pledge to oppose tax increases because they're against tax increases.
Our friends the Democrats kind of -- it backwards.
And the good news as Republicans united speaker Boehner is united in leading a party.
Saying noted tax increases and explain -- the Democrats have been spending too much money.
-- -- we're going to be talking with a member of the super committee congressman Fred Upton chairman of the energy and commerce committee here that man.
And one of the things is clear is that there is a sharp divide on the issue of raising revenue raising taxes.
-- and he's the Republicans frankly have been so adamant so clear so straightforward -- there will be no new taxes 11.
Finds it hard to -- mansion.
Why that should even be under discussion now how seriously do you take the threat that it will be under discussion.
Well it'll be under discussion because it's all the Democrats want to talk about.
Their goal is to raise taxes up to where we can fund.
Obama sized government.
The kind of size of government that Greece and France have gotten used to Obama -- -- running spending in that direction but he needs to bring taxes up.
In that direction as well so the Democrats will once again behave like.
Teenage boys on a prom date asking for the same thing seventeen different ways.
And not audiences.
Actually increases that's what they want they care about our -- are different ways I got that.
I run curious though how do you see very -- -- -- regret about between 42 chart how do you think the super committee -- It will not raise taxes at the Democrats wanna help cut spending will do that otherwise we'll go to -- -- -- -- -- Grover -- thanks for being with.
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