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The Republican Party is being warned of quote great danger of libertarian presidential candidate stray from the GOP primaries.
And run on a third party ticket.
Better and commodity strategist Roger sterling yes that Roger Stone says my next guest former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson.
Not only the strongest third party candidate by the Republican party's greatest threat to taking back the White House.
Here -- the great danger himself.
Former New Mexico governor and possible third party candidate I don't know I'll ask him Gary Johnson governor it's a pleasure welcomed here.
Great to be on here judge and no I'm not the third party candidate the idea you know you gotta be one of the two parties to get elected than.
I always thought it was great that I actually got to serve talking about these ideas and not just talk about them but actually make it practice.
In the time that I got to -- eight years as our governor of New Mexico.
Pat has Roger Stone home hello my I have known for 25 or thirty years.
Political operative of great talent here in new York and elsewhere in the country has -- been advising you about the ins and outs of running for a third party has -- been encouraging you to consider this.
You know -- Roger hasn't others others have mentioned it and everybody that mentions that everybody that talks about it -- again my take on this is is that.
But I'd like to govern and I think you gotta be part of -- Part of the -- one of the two parties to actually.
Get elected I'm -- laboring under the -- judge Dell actually.
Get a light shined on me at some point in this process and then -- look okay.
That that's my beliefs so far it hasn't happened and I just want to be included in the polls.
Included in the polls that determine who gets in the debate.
All right the other day you -- filed -- to have your name on the ballot in New Hampshire and I wouldn't even know when -- Hampshire primary is going to be held.
It looks like it's going to be in the first or second week in January.
You've just made it under the wire you adjustment under the deadline to file.
-- your campaign governor Johnson and you know I share almost all of your views.
A serious campaign that has a serious shot of winning the Republican presidential nomination.
Yeah I would I would absolutely say that -- I'm still laboring under the belief that I'm gonna win the nomination and that will be the result of actually getting -- light shined on me now regarding.
Filing late in New Hampshire you know what that was a screw up.
And who is ultimately responsible for that -- me.
I'm posting hate it that -- got filed and I wish not a -- would happen but it it ended up work.
Now are what what is your path -- the nomination is it through Iowa is it through New Hampshire is that on.
The South Carolina where is your firewall where should we watch you where do you have strength that will be manifested when the primary is held.
Well so far there's there's there's no strength whatsoever because.
I'm not getting in front of audiences I'm not in the debates so.
And you know it's there it's a real catch 22 and if you're not in the -- you can't be on the debates you know you can't.
You can't really raise money if you're not even on the poll who's gonna -- -- -- to you.
So this is a real catch 22.
I just have to believe that.
Given what we've witnessed which you are Republicans that come under the light.
And they go from this to this I mean we've just watch this now how many times with four candidates.
-- I hope to get a spot in in that at a point and we'll see what happens.
What's the case for you and in that shell.
The case for Gary Johnson as the Republican nominee against Barack Obama in 2012.
Well that -- on the classical liberal look less government is the best government.
The best thing -- government can do for you NI is to get out of our lives to let us make decisions.
That only you and I should be making I served eight years as governor of New Mexico implementing that kind of thing.
You know what judge I started -- one man handyman business and Albuquerque and grew to over a thousand employees I really think I bring a unique perspective to this job got I've climbed Mount Everest I think you want a president -- -- hunker down.
And make this happen.
It's really lousy job present -- United States really lousy job it's just time somebody -- it got it governor Johnson it's a pleasure thank you for joining us.
Thanks John --