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We now a member of the house oversight committee leading the investigation.
Congressman trade Ghali joins us.
Now the other Republican and -- and -- South Carolina good to have you with -- what -- -- -- the answer to be by the -- from the FBI.
Two senator Grassley and chairman -- and -- Lou what I think the issue is going to be is that the FBI doesn't know because the project dial.
And I hate to speak in such store -- terms but the project -- the -- bus or patrol agent Terry.
What's so distorted that they're not gonna be able to do ballistics or rifling test on it so.
I think it's entirely appropriate the senator Grassley chairman I -- ask.
But -- had countless homicide prosecutions where.
The project all -- just so distorted that you can't do the test that you have to do.
So you're left with an inconclusive result.
I suspect that's either gonna be the answer ward director -- -- it was widely respected on both sides of the aisle was gonna say this would jeopardize the successful prosecution him.
When they -- give you classified briefing -- tell you why.
Well when it comes to the murder of a US Border Patrol agent.
One would expect a great deal of intensity and urgency in that investigation as well as thoroughness.
I'm sure we've seen for -- urgency doesn't seem to be the case this is we're now ten months into this.
This is by any standard.
A frustrating -- long period for an investigation.
By into a homicide -- Yes -- and every day that goes by the case.
Gets worse nothing in the criminal justice system gets better with time so.
My hope is that the waiting on forensics -- ballistics to have.
To seal the deal -- -- that defense attorneys have asked for a continuous for some reason or the other but ten months.
The ten months to twelve months we need to get this case result and what the Terry Stanley have.
What I hope.
Will Begin to be some closure.
And the questions seem to just widen and for example -- dispute to have by the Justice Department that there were.
Three -- weapons at that murder -- not to his first reported.
And there is considerable evidence as you well know congressman that there were indeed a -- weapons including the statements of and AT.
Our agent and the gun dealer who sold at least two of the three weapons.
I mean these questions seem to be.
Growing as they answers seem to be frankly not -- coming forward.
Here there's -- but there's -- missing the exhibit one whenever you worker crimes and obviously you number.
Which you recover and if you have a two -- -- three necessarily you have to have a one.
That's part of the frustration but really the overarching frustration.
That some of us feel hopefully most of us feel.
Is the Department of Justice that has become excessively politicize.
And when you -- have confidence in the Department of Justice or the nation's top law enforcement official.
We may not make it as a republic so my hope -- Then my expectation although -- -- disappointed thus for this for attorney general ordered to do now what He should've done.
Initially which is -- before -- congress -- the house or the senate.
And tell us everything He notes if it needs to be a classified briefing that's -- because it would jeopardize.
A some ongoing investigation or prosecution.
But I can tell you is a former employee of the Department of Justice I take no pleasure whatsoever and you're not have in this conversation.
But we have to have confidence in that department if we don't which I don't think is too much -- if we don't.
We're not gonna make of this republic so this is serious it is not politics despite would -- Colleague congressman ships.
This is so much more important than just political shenanigans -- -- about the Department of Justice.
And you referenced congressman -- congressman Adam Schiff.
And and calling it a political attack on the attorney general.
Quote the politically motivated attacks on attorney general Eric Holder need to come to an end.
There are a meritless distraction from the important work of the department of justice and the many men and women who work everyday to make America safer.
The evidence is clear in the attorney general has been forthright throughout.
I have to ask you congressman straight up.
His appearance the attorney general's appearance for the House Judiciary Committee -- was an exercise in.
Two elements at least contradiction of the facts as we now know them and secondly.
Without question.
And misrepresentation.
Of the facts.
-- I I had to smile when I read congressman -- use the work -- right -- trying to think what and -- known for forthright would be like cops vacation or demonstrably false.
Then if you go on and read farther -- congressman ships letter.
He said that attorney general holder was very forthright when He learned of serious problems with fast and furious.
Art -- couple of issues there Lou -- -- what could.
Possibly be more serious than the death of a Border Patrol agent which happened deed in December of 2010.
Congressman so we're feeling very -- or shall.
-- -- shipment of very important use of the words serious.
Our in an application congress really relatively also -- I'm and sort -- report.
Well I was just gonna say He also miss the overarching issue which is it's not just the problems with fast and furious it's fast and furious from its inception it was from all of from day one.
And there's there's another now.
Looming problem and that appears to be the inability of the refusal.
Of the US Justice Department.
To bring forward the facts to the United States congress that will -- -- to be resolved as you well know and we it will be resolved.
We thank you for being here.
