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Well -- you're gonna -- the college student who uncovered election fraud and Indiana's 2008 presidential primary.
Raising serious questions about how -- senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton -- on the ballot in the great state of Indiana.
Joining us now -- Yale University student who helped break the story Ryan.
-- good to have you with this Ryan and that and also for joining us Ken Blackwell former Ohio secretary of state who oversaw elections -- -- years.
He's senior fellow for family -- -- at the family research council good to have you with this can probably start -- to do with it discovering.
The that that that the president as candidate had some names on is petition that.
We're well there were fraudulent.
Hundreds in fact enough what -- look.
I heard that this occurred by people who -- in a position to know that it occurred.
And simply looking at the petitions.
Makes the fraud that happened demonstrably it can go after page after page after page line after line after line to the same signature -- the same handwriting her signature signature.
-- ten a junior at Yale discovers election fraud in Indiana.
And the folks and Indiana.
Who were charged with that responsibility.
As a result of his.
His energy and attention.
Political machines and Indiana are screaming.
Alike stock the stock pigs they are right now.
For the fraud that was committed.
What is going on we on the honor system.
For elections across this country and is that very smart if we are.
Well look if it puts a a real burden on folks at the local levels and make sure that the resources.
And the training.
Is is is there.
We must protect the integrity of the election process from the beginning.
Inclusive book signatures all the way to the -- in terms of casting ballots.
44 candidates and on issues how worried are you how worried can you about.
This election in certain places in this country because we are on basically on the honor system.
There are places we don't require identification.
-- you walk and games are played.
And you've got some and some well meaning public spirited of folks who were frankly not up to the task of enforcing.
-- election law.
What are we to do.
In the elections and and their viability in this country turn on not only voting rights but people understanding their voting.
Brings -- -- some duties we need people to engage as volunteers.
As as the election observers because.
You know nothing gives us the security.
Like vigilance and that means that we have to give more more people involved we can't run it from the federal and Brian -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Ken -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- elections.
-- guy finds election fraud on the petitions at 2008.
On the petitions about -- Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.
Wearable local folks what's happening are they prosecuting.
Are the folks responsible for those petitions locally.
There are so that there's a prosecutor in Indiana is -- open approach about a week and a half ago the problem and that happened in northern Indiana was that.
The local officials you humans in the on a system that the local officials who were in charge of sort of trying to petitions and overseeing the integrity of the process.
Appear to have been mature in the involved in the front.
So that that's something that it is very difficult combat other than just multiple layers and redundancy.
Well then how about redundancy in the volunteers as is can block also we've got to have volunteers in the system.
But we're going to -- some people think some pretty sharp attention because we know one thing there are groups of people in this country right now.
Trying to figure out how.
The game the system in November -- -- They had to be bipartisan two -- -- I do I don't want bipartisan I want them partisan as they -- -- -- -- wanna look at it each other like I think.
Well into the lives they are.
Our look they had to be gradual and I appreciate we're really out of time -- I appreciated.
Ryan thank you keep it going I don't know what you do for the next two years of your education Yale.
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