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Former Sen. Alan Simpson, (R-Wyo.), discusses efforts to rein in government spending and the partisan politics behind the deficit debate.
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-- they have to go bigger goal Holman a sense.
When when we got -- this work for a year.
It was just.
Ghastly.
First states say who's the biggest spending president in the history of the country -- -- cured or should never be told a single spending bill.
And then we -- a pharmacy bill in the from -- all this.
And then -- -- but this guy Obama's.
Done him three to one and fathers and I said look we'll just due to -- report we're not gonna do mush is all politics or both sides.
-- all politics but anyway.
Week we contact them I've talked to half of -- -- -- talked to probably more.
And we call only say is there anything we do to help we're not here say -- please adopt our plan you gotta buy our package if they can do anything they want should they have learned anything from from your experience of going threat.
-- they don't have to learn anything more they have they they they have everything in front of -- no need to hold anymore hearings and I think that's good I think they've made that decision and no need to because you have the gang of six and their work if you have the demand that you Rivlin commission -- -- -- You have the Bowles Simpson commissioned their work you have the trustees of the Social Security system and all the actual words there's no need to.
Keep shuffling its all there could -- the work is done you're right in in in in a lot of ways.
But to your work that the head of a commission -- supported by the president of the United States.
And it made recommendations have been praised widely on a bipartisan basis by people on both sides of the aisle but.
Have not been adopted are you angry at all about the way things have been -- -- anger inside about the way things have been handled I gave up anger anger kind -- luncheon -- -- -- BP oh that's good to view PO but anger that -- no.
The president didn't didn't excepted because his political handlers.
And that's all -- around him now if there's no -- nobody around them.
Talking about the future of the country -- talking to you about the future of his election and and he's had to -- and He didn't dump them.
But his handlers have dumped the people are saying do policy induce and useful stuff do -- things are needed America let's get to the election first.
And so He would have been should have a shift he'd accepted that what we put it up.
So -- came right and then He said there.
The biggest -- -- on in the -- here is Medicare doesn't matter if you called obamacare.
Elvis Presley care I don't care care can't work it cannot work.
Let's just get serious.
You know -- the day coming in turning 65.
Obesity one person America way of more on the other two.
We have got things that with booze and -- -- -- and uninsured people and drugs cocktail they don't you know have handled them.
And and is anybody -- and pre existing conditions from the ages three.
Does anybody believe that that's not gonna cost them -- little white this -- right we put in there how you could do something about it limited.
And Ryan said if that's the driver.
I'm wanna speak on it and I'll be torn to bits sol Paul Ryan -- his -- loaded up and went into the fray and put it out there and got ripped.
For sure is gonna save -- by the president was torn if it's -- after after all up.
Yeah -- people look at this and you know we debate things on the margins all the time and there's so we're gonna.
Give you this tax incentive for this tax break -- -- to cut the spending program.
-- Medicare Medicare Social Security defense right and that's that's it.
That's compared to of the big four and it's not a cut -- sold securities to make it solvent not to.
Balance the budget on the back of -- senior citizens that golfers who -- yeah and what about people in your own party mentioned the president the mistakes He may have made afterwards what about people in the Republican parties say.
Well OK we have to -- -- -- -- but we can't raise taxes cannot raise taxes under any circumstances what He said to them.
I say I think.
Need to get a new life because if Grover Norquist let's get serious.
If Grover Norquist and his happy band of warriors and you really need to take a look at what was put in the congressional record October 4 by Frank Wolf congressman wolf about Grover Norquist and who He is right.
And who He has represented.
And who He count two and his conflict you really.
I hope the American public just.
Get it out there October 4 book page and him number about Grover babe and what He does know tax pledge yeah.
Well I -- if you are if you're a legislator going to be a legislator.
And you wanna go to congress -- go to the City Council signs something about anything whether it's abortion or.
Where taxes are gay rights or whatever -- your goofy enough to sign that before you research -- issue before you.
Gone to work and done your homework before you heard the debate you're not a legislator.
You're just -- robot.
So anyway back to -- over.
If He is this powerful.
This powerful and He went and got most of these pledges one that you know things were roses and America 8690.
-- out of signed up.
And now hold about the only thing -- come due to you.
He can't murder EA can't burn down your house -- I think He -- do to you is defeat issue for reelection or not let you get through primary and if that means more to you.
Then your country in its extremity right now you don't deserve to be and -- Because these are big picture issues you know when you talk about.
Again year to year and do we need to spend now to create growth and all these things that we debate on the air every day but the things you talk about -- the big picture the four items that we mentioned before.
And the direction of the country what we need to do to get back.
On track.
There's a lot going on right now I mean these protesters are on the street here in New York -- Wall Street protests.
When you make of that.
-- I I've been looking at that with some amusement because I think that they are there were on the right track there irritated.
They're fed up.
The Fed up because their money want to bail out those guys.
And those guys stand -- their own -- at least that's their view instead of giving it to in all.
The guys so they could hire and get it out of the -- -- mass but I would like to ask those people not what they make but what they do with that.
What is their charitable contribution what do they do.
For the Salvation Army or for this group were smile train her but where did they give their bucks not figures -- whole month.
Then just go get -- just do anything you want messed around with them but if they're giving.
They're big bucks to something worthwhile for their fellow man and woman.
That would be very intriguing to me because we're here on earth to do things for others what they others are doing here I am the slightest -- -- -- Wall Street people given a lot of money to charity.
Well -- let's find out what it -- that'll get the monkey off their back you think -- -- the protesters threw it with me.
I mean if they're given a hundred bucks here to the Salvation Army -- -- ten million I mean name government get another drink.
Are you.
The anger that is out there at business and the anger that is out there -- government.
It comes from both sides if the Tea Party at one -- the Wall Street protesters on the other cute you're saying the anger -- there are absent the solutions the anger is justified what about the solution.
It's I don't know which justify -- just it's discussed it's discussed and then you have to know who are the protesters Marshall who -- the rich yeah.
Who are the protesters got down their looking for a shave and a free lunch or or is He really got some money of mind or her mind I mean let's cut through the the stuff that goes with this kind of material and materialistic and material.
